kapkomet Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 You know what, though? This column hits right on the point. If the MAJORITY of Americans believe in something, STAND UP FOR IT. I TOTALLY disagree with Molly on just about every issue, but this column is DEAD ON. Say no to Hillary If this happened, at least the debate would be about issues. And that's what it is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 01:28 PM) You know what, though? This column hits right on the point. If the MAJORITY of Americans believe in something, STAND UP FOR IT. I TOTALLY disagree with Molly on just about every issue, but this column is DEAD ON. Say no to Hillary If this happened, at least the debate would be about issues. And that's what it is about. Excellent read. I also agree with pretty much everything she said. The Dems won't win by pandering, moving right or trying to dig out a state or two in the south. They'll win if they capitalize on the mistakes the current administration is making (which they have sort of started to do), and taking a real stand (instead of just complaining and then wandering aimlessly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 01:28 PM) You know what, though? This column hits right on the point. If the MAJORITY of Americans believe in something, STAND UP FOR IT. I TOTALLY disagree with Molly on just about every issue, but this column is DEAD ON. Say no to Hillary If this happened, at least the debate would be about issues. And that's what it is about. I just saw Vegas put odds on this actually happening. 1-4...not so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 And the most interesting part, IMO, is she is saying that the current "leaders" of the Democratic party cannot and will not get it done. Bravo! Get a leader, see him/her win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I won't even waste my time reading her crap, agree with her or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 06:43 PM) I won't even waste my time reading her crap, agree with her or not. I don't normally, but the title grabbed me (Say no to Hillary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Her critiques of Bush are usually right on, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 What kind of courage does it take, for mercy's sake? The majority of the American people (55 percent) think the war in Iraq is a mistake and that we should get out. The majority (65 percent) of the American people want single-payer health care and are willing to pay more taxes to get it. The majority (86 percent) of the American people favor raising the minimum wage. The majority of the American people (60 percent) favor repealing Bush's tax cuts, or at least those that go only to the rich. The majority (66 percent) wants to reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending, but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes. The majority (77 percent) thinks we should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment. The majority (87 percent) thinks big oil companies are gouging consumers and would support a windfall profits tax. That is the center, you fools. WHO ARE YOU AFRAID OF? That's all fine and dandy, but the people that answer these polls aren't the same ones that actually show up and vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 12:46 PM) Her critiques of Bush are usually right on, IMO. I'm surprised. :rolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 06:55 PM) What kind of courage does it take, for mercy's sake? The majority of the American people (55 percent) think the war in Iraq is a mistake and that we should get out. The majority (65 percent) of the American people want single-payer health care and are willing to pay more taxes to get it. The majority (86 percent) of the American people favor raising the minimum wage. The majority of the American people (60 percent) favor repealing Bush's tax cuts, or at least those that go only to the rich. The majority (66 percent) wants to reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending, but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes. The majority (77 percent) thinks we should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment. The majority (87 percent) thinks big oil companies are gouging consumers and would support a windfall profits tax. That is the center, you fools. WHO ARE YOU AFRAID OF? Damn, I am 1-7. Guess I am very much the minority, according to her stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm surprised. :rolly <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What can I say? I'm a "treehugger". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) What can I say? I'm a "treehugger". Tree-hugger - fine. She's a flat out hater of the Bush family in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Tree-hugger - fine. She's a flat out hater of the Bush family in general. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not a fan of theirs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 11:41 AM) And the most interesting part, IMO, is she is saying that the current "leaders" of the Democratic party cannot and will not get it done. The current "leaders" of the Democratic party are nutcases like Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean. Why they're putting such people in powerful, high-profile positions is beyond me. Despite what Dick Morris thinks, I don't see Hillary being able to win. She has waaay too many skeletons in her closet and too many moderates dislike her. They'd be better off with a moderate like Lieberman or Bayh. Edited January 25, 2006 by WCSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 03:07 PM) I'm not a fan of theirs either. After reading some of the things Ivins has said in the past about Israel, I am surprised you give her the time of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 If Hillary is the Democrats candidate I bet she votes for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(WCSox @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 03:14 PM) The current "leaders" of the Democratic party are nutcases ... Nice irony there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 03:15 PM) If Hillary is the Democrats candidate I bet she votes for her. I would be Hillary would vote for her too.... Molly Ivins, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 02:39 PM) I would be Hillary would vote for her too of course you would if be you then hillary of when there is of be then vote or therefore. Edited January 25, 2006 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 01:14 PM) Damn, I am 1-7. Guess I am very much the minority, according to her stats. I'm a minority too. I wonder where those numbers are from??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 After reading some of the things Ivins has said in the past about Israel, I am surprised you give her the time of day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do not regularly read her columns...I have a friend who emails me the Bush-related columns. Most of the "lefties" seem to dislike Israel...I guess that's the nature of the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 That's all fine and dandy, but the people that answer these polls aren't the same ones that actually show up and vote. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm 7 for 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 01:55 PM) That's all fine and dandy, but the people that answer these polls aren't the same ones that actually show up and vote. People get scared when they vote. I remember hearing, I think during the '96 election, that people would rather stay with the status quo, regardless of party, for a second term. Not because they magically started to like that candidate, but because they don't like change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) Tree-hugger - fine. She's a flat out hater of the Bush family in general. I perfer to call it the Bush Family Dynasty of BFD for short . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Jan 25, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) I'm 7 for 7. OK, poll over. We have one person. We don't need to ask anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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