My Dixie Normus Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dustin Hermanson is still listed on the disabled list. He is still officially on the 40-man roster. Has anyone heard any news recently on his progress? Should he just be counted out totally or does he just go to the same doctors that Mark Prior does? If he gets back at all, will he be worth a crap after this long of a lay off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 You should pretty much just forget the name Dustin Hermanson all together. The guy is comming off a very serious injury and should not be expected to give the the Sox anything at all this year. Even if he does come back, he'd probably put up numbers comparable to one Clifford Politte. Hell you thought Cliff had a career year last year, just take a look at what Hermanson did. If Hermanson had not injured his back he would have been a prime candidate along with Politte to have a down year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 10:41 PM) Dustin Hermanson is still listed on the disabled list. He is still officially on the 40-man roster. Has anyone heard any news recently on his progress? Should he just be counted out totally or does he just go to the same doctors that Mark Prior does? If he gets back at all, will he be worth a crap after this long of a lay off? When of if he gets back yes he would help us, as is Bmac is the only long relief besides cotts we really have, and I think some of our guys are a bit overworked. Herm if he gets back into form could help us and im guessin would setup bobby for the close. However with his injury i wouldnt expect prime numbers more along 4 in era Edited June 6, 2006 by ChWRoCk2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 03:45 AM) You should pretty much just forget the name Dustin Hermanson all together. The guy is comming off a very serious injury and should not be expected to give the the Sox anything at all this year. Even if he does come back, he'd probably put up numbers comparable to one Clifford Politte. Hell you thought Cliff had a career year last year, just take a look at what Hermanson did. If Hermanson had not injured his back he would have been a prime candidate along with Politte to have a down year. **Tries to find any existing logic in this one** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 10:46 PM) **Tries to find any existing logic in this one** You sure do add a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 03:50 AM) You sure do add a lot. I used to like your "being an ass" comebacks. But this...this was just lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 10:41 PM) Dustin Hermanson is still listed on the disabled list. He is still officially on the 40-man roster. Has anyone heard any news recently on his progress? Should he just be counted out totally or does he just go to the same doctors that Mark Prior does? If he gets back at all, will he be worth a crap after this long of a lay off? Hermanson is done, probably, if not as a pitcher then as an effective pitcher. It's possible that he could come off the injuries he's had and the treatments given him, but I very much doubt it. There are very few genuine medical miracle, comeback-and-be-better-than-ever-or-even-the-same stories in sports, and I think it's unrealistic to expect Hermanson to come back, and we shouldn't rely on that prospect, either, although I don't think anyone is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 11:06 PM) I used to like your "being an ass" comebacks. But this...this was just lame. Actually I was just being honest. Edited June 6, 2006 by Kalapse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 10:46 PM) When of if he gets back yes he would help us, as is Bmac is the only long relief besides cotts we really have, and I think some of our guys are a bit overworked. Herm if he gets back into form could help us and im guessin would setup bobby for the close. However with his injury i wouldnt expect prime numbers more along 4 in era What would a middle reliever with an ERA in the 4's do for the White Sox? Give us another Matt Thornton? Great. If there was anything indictive of last season, it was a lights out bullpen. And giving Hermanson, after that injury, an estimate of anything near 4.00 is a joke. I'd drop a load in my pants by shock if Dustin Hermanson had an ERA anywhere near 5.00. I'm one who thinks this team can survive with Juan Uribe hovering around .200, but if they don't do anything about the bullpen, and I mean in bringing in a guy who can duplicate Cliff Politte's all-star like numbers from last season, the Sox will see a few more of these bad runs. Edited June 6, 2006 by BobDylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 08:41 PM) Dustin Hermanson is still listed on the disabled list. He is still officially on the 40-man roster. Has anyone heard any news recently on his progress? Should he just be counted out totally or does he just go to the same doctors that Mark Prior does? If he gets back at all, will he be worth a crap after this long of a lay off? A while back I saw where he was throwing down in extended spring training, but he was still in a lot of pain. I think its realistic to expect him to announce his retirement, however, it would be excellent if he was able to come back healthy (but I really don't think that will happen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 The only reason Hermanson isn't on the 60 day DL is the Sox don't need the roster spot yet. If they ever fill up the 40 man roster, he'll get moved over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 12:58 PM) The only reason Hermanson isn't on the 60 day DL is the Sox don't need the roster spot yet. If they ever fill up the 40 man roster, he'll get moved over. Which tells you how sad our bullpen situation really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcollapse Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 10:46 PM) **Tries to find any existing logic in this one** regression to the mean... he is 33 years old with a bad back and his 05 numbers were very good compared to his past years. could he come back and pitch like he did last year, sure. the chances of it are just very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(fullcollapse @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 03:50 PM) regression to the mean... he is 33 years old with a bad back and his 05 numbers were very good compared to his past years. could he come back and pitch like he did last year, sure. the chances of it are just very low. Kalapse said "If he had not injured his back". I don't think anyone would have expected him to pitch like last year, but to say he would have been as bad as Politte is just dumb. Just because both had good years last year has nothing to do with anything. Each is their seperate case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 11:38 AM) Kalapse said "If he had not injured his back". I don't think anyone would have expected him to pitch like last year, but to say he would have been as bad as Politte is just dumb. Just because both had good years last year has nothing to do with anything. Each is their seperate case. In my opinion, Hermanson would have regressed big time even without the injury. He doesn't have great stuff at all and can only fool American League hitters for so long with his large aray of pitches. His June and September of last year were nothing spectacular and I don't see how it's "dumb" to think that he and Politte are incredibly similar cases. You can only get by with a 86 MPH fastball for so long in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 It's a shame because they were expecting him to be able to pitch this season. The hope was that with time off the back would heal some. Doesn't look like it has. I assume he's still trying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 11:53 AM) In my opinion, Hermanson would have regressed big time even without the injury. He doesn't have great stuff at all and can only fool American League hitters for so long with his large aray of pitches. His June and September of last year were nothing spectacular and I don't see how it's "dumb" to think that he and Politte are incredibly similar cases. You can only get by with a 86 MPH fastball for so long in the AL. I'm with you on this one. Hermanson pitched into a lot of hard outs last year. Eventually, those start avoiding gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 11:14 AM) It's a shame because they were expecting him to be able to pitch this season. The hope was that with time off the back would heal some. Doesn't look like it has. I assume he's still trying? Unfortuntately, I'm not sure he properly informed KW just how bad his back was and as a result, we did not make a more serious play for a reliever. This team might be a lot better with a guy like Howry or Eyre on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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