September 25, 200619 yr So I went to Champaign this weekend to watch Illinois-Iowa and ya that was some bad football. I'm convinced that SIU would beat Illinois and Iowa has been so unimpressive every game I've seen them play(all except the Montana game).
September 25, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 11:32 PM) So I went to Champaign this weekend to watch Illinois-Iowa Sorry to hear that...
September 25, 200619 yr Mizzou is 4-0 and ranked #25 in the AP poll. I know they've played very mediocre competition, but they have looked good in the games. This week against Ohio they were pretty sloppy, but the defense looks amazing. #1 in the country in yards against per game.
September 25, 200619 yr QUOTE(danman31 @ Sep 25, 2006 -> 02:28 AM) Mizzou is 4-0 and ranked #25 in the AP poll. I know they've played very mediocre competition, but they have looked good in the games. This week against Ohio they were pretty sloppy, but the defense looks amazing. #1 in the country in yards against per game. keep going higher, this will make it so much more wonderful when we beat you for the what 3rd or 4th year in a row. Haha, actually way to make the big 12 north look a wee bit better. Maybe we can join you guys if we can beat nebraska, naaaaa
September 25, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jimbo @ Sep 25, 2006 -> 12:56 PM) keep going higher, this will make it so much more wonderful when we beat you for the what 3rd or 4th year in a row. Haha, actually way to make the big 12 north look a wee bit better. Maybe we can join you guys if we can beat nebraska, naaaaa Missouri/Kansas is the dumbest rivalry ever. There is no reason for the two schools to hate each other, at all. Neither one of them are both good at a sport lately anyway. But hey, at least Mizzou isn't losing to Toledo.
September 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(danman31 @ Sep 25, 2006 -> 04:55 PM) Missouri/Kansas is the dumbest rivalry ever. There is no reason for the two schools to hate each other, at all. Neither one of them are both good at a sport lately anyway. But hey, at least Mizzou isn't losing to Toledo. spoken like a true missouri fan. KU has kicked the crud out of you in every sport since i started my kansas viewing, 6 years ago. Missouri fans freakin hate the jayhawks, if you dont believe it, open your mouth and talk to some of your other classmates, not the chicago kids. I cannot wait to watch Mangino beat Pinky again this year. Then, it gets even more fun with Mike Anderson, im bubbling with glee.
September 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 11:32 PM) So I went to Champaign this weekend to watch Illinois-Iowa and ya that was some bad football. I'm convinced that SIU would beat Illinois and Iowa has been so unimpressive every game I've seen them play(all except the Montana game). No sir
September 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Sep 26, 2006 -> 01:45 AM) No sir I was waiting for you to jump in.
September 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jimbo @ Sep 25, 2006 -> 11:49 PM) spoken like a true missouri fan. KU has kicked the crud out of you in every sport since i started my kansas viewing, 6 years ago. Missouri fans freakin hate the jayhawks, if you dont believe it, open your mouth and talk to some of your other classmates, not the chicago kids. I cannot wait to watch Mangino beat Pinky again this year. Then, it gets even more fun with Mike Anderson, im bubbling with glee. I'm sorry hasn't Kansas lost 2 in a row in Columbia in basketball to piss poor teams? You're right Missouri fans hate Kansas and Kansas fans hate Missouri. You obviously are included because you decided to talk trash when it's quite clear which of the two teams has performed better so far this year and I didn't direct anything towards Kansas. Stop picking a fight, you're just being an asshole.
September 26, 200619 yr QUOTE(danman31 @ Sep 26, 2006 -> 07:43 AM) I'm sorry hasn't Kansas lost 2 in a row in Columbia in basketball to piss poor teams? You're right Missouri fans hate Kansas and Kansas fans hate Missouri. You obviously are included because you decided to talk trash when it's quite clear which of the two teams has performed better so far this year and I didn't direct anything towards Kansas. Stop picking a fight, you're just being an asshole. im not picking a fight, go back and you will see i was praising missouri. It was tongue in cheek, but i said your ranking is making the big 12 north look good. I was just saying if we beat you again, it will make us look better, since your a ranked team.
September 27, 200619 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 10:22 PM) ND is bad for one reason - team speed. There is no speed on defense and will continue to get scored upon by any team with good speed. Tom Zibikowski is pretty damn fast. I know he's white, but he's fast. EDIT: I posit that the defensive problems for ND are more related to a weak front 7. Willingham was absolutely awful at recruiting Linemen and Linebackers of any variety (to his credit he did a fair job at recruiting skill position players for whatever reason). I think in his last 2 recruiting seasons, he landed 4 linemen which is absolutely pathetic for a big time program. Unfortunately, the defense is very weak as a result. I think Weis is doing a pretty good job of getting some great players (he's gotten some top defensive backs in his 3 classes, hopefully he can find some linemen). Edited September 27, 200619 yr by Wedge
September 27, 200619 yr Just like ISU absoultely despises Kansas in basketball. I'd say they are bigger rivals than Iowa for men's basketball. Missouri just makes another ranked opponent for the Clones this year.....I think they (ISU) are the third best team in the North. I just have visions of Chase Daniel destroying us.
September 27, 200619 yr QUOTE(Wedge @ Sep 27, 2006 -> 08:22 AM) Tom Zibikowski is pretty damn fast. I know he's white, but he's fast. EDIT: I posit that the defensive problems for ND are more related to a weak front 7. Willingham was absolutely awful at recruiting Linemen and Linebackers of any variety (to his credit he did a fair job at recruiting skill position players for whatever reason). I think in his last 2 recruiting seasons, he landed 4 linemen which is absolutely pathetic for a big time program. Unfortunately, the defense is very weak as a result. I think Weis is doing a pretty good job of getting some great players (he's gotten some top defensive backs in his 3 classes, hopefully he can find some linemen). Mentioning him as someone who is pretty damn fast comparative-wise shows how slow the team really is.
September 27, 200619 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 27, 2006 -> 11:23 AM) Mentioning him as someone who is pretty damn fast comparative-wise shows how slow the team really is. Not comparatively. Zibby is fast. If you watched the Fiesta Bowl, you saw him making up ground on Holmes and Ginn on their long runs. He also caught Reggie Bush from behind last year, too. He's fast.
September 28, 200619 yr QUOTE(Wedge @ Sep 27, 2006 -> 03:11 PM) Not comparatively. Zibby is fast. If you watched the Fiesta Bowl, you saw him making up ground on Holmes and Ginn on their long runs. He also caught Reggie Bush from behind last year, too. He's fast. Making up ground as they were high-stepping into the end zone? There is one reason why they got schooled by OSU's speed, their defense is slow. If he is your "speed guy" on the defense, you are in trouble.
September 28, 200619 yr Zibby has speed. Either way you get near him hes gonna fu*ck your ass up. Every offensive player fears him.
September 28, 200619 yr Yeah, he's legit fast. There's a reason why he is the punt returner. He has a sick 40 time, but I don't want to make it up because I don't remember. I do remember hearing it and it's impressive.
September 28, 200619 yr QUOTE(He_Gawn @ Sep 27, 2006 -> 08:18 PM) Zibby has speed. Either way you get near him hes gonna fu*ck your ass up. Every offensive player fears him. Its too bad he didnt get anywhere near Manningham.
September 28, 200619 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2006 -> 10:21 AM) Its too bad he didnt get anywhere near Manningham. Because that almost makes sense.
September 28, 200619 yr KU is on the road at nebraska this weekend. This is our 3rd of 4 straight weeks of national TV. how weird is that?? If KU can win like last year, we would be 4-1...how weird is that haha
September 28, 200619 yr If Zib runs a sub 4.5 I would be shocked. And Im talking at the combine, not what fluff coachs say. When I see him he seems slow, but thats just my opinion.
September 28, 200619 yr QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Sep 28, 2006 -> 02:27 PM) If Zib runs a sub 4.5 I would be shocked. And Im talking at the combine, not what fluff coachs say. When I see him he seems slow, but thats just my opinion. When you see WR running past the ND DB's its enough evidence to me.
September 28, 200619 yr QUOTE(He_Gawn @ Sep 27, 2006 -> 08:18 PM) Zibby has speed. Either way you get near him hes gonna fu*ck your ass up. Every offensive player fears him. Michigan State's running back looked terrified as he was running Zbikowski over.
September 28, 200619 yr QUOTE(Jimbo @ Sep 28, 2006 -> 12:05 PM) KU is on the road at nebraska this weekend. This is our 3rd of 4 straight weeks of national TV. how weird is that?? If KU can win like last year, we would be 4-1...how weird is that haha If KU could pull off the upset, it'd sure help ISU. When's the last time the Jayhawks won in Lincoln?
September 29, 200619 yr The 2 things I went into this year skeptical of among the top 5 were Auburn and the Notre Dame defense, and I've yet to see anything to change my mind. However, I can't wait for Ohio State at Iowa. Despite the fact Ohio State is superior at every spot except TE and Kicker, I think the night game at Kinnick factor will keep it close.
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