April 6, 200719 yr Author It's official. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_...tucky_gillispie
April 6, 200719 yr What is the better job, KU or UK? Strange to see a Self guy get such a prominent job when Self hasnt wont a NC yet, which is the bottomline at UK.
April 6, 200719 yr Could turn into a good hire, not proven enough for the job, but has been successful in his short times at UTEP and A&M. Definitely better than the Doherty hire UNC had to fall back to, *shivers. UK is definitely a better job than KU. KU is one of the top 5 jobs in college basketball, but Kentucky can pay more than any other program, and has what 7-8 championships, and Ashley Judd.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:40 AM) Could turn into a good hire, not proven enough for the job, but has been successful in his short times at UTEP and A&M. Definitely better than the Doherty hire UNC had to fall back to, *shivers. UK is definitely a better job than KU. KU is one of the top 5 jobs in college basketball, but Kentucky can pay more than any other program, and has what 7-8 championships, and Ashley Judd. 1. kentucky 2. unc 3. kansas 4. ucla 5. indiana/duke Self and Gillespie took the same route start at smaller school(oral roberts, utep) go to big team in big conference and make them awesome(Illinois, A&M) Bail on them after 2/3 years and go to powerhouse (UK, KU
April 6, 200719 yr the next logical step then for gillespie would be to start losing first round games to crappy teams then
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Jimbo @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:45 AM) go to big team in big conference and make them awesome(Illinois, A&M) Kruger made us awesome, not Self. Self did a good job maintaining it though.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Jimbo @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 04:45 PM) 1. kentucky 2. unc 3. kansas 4. ucla 5. indiana/duke Self and Gillespie took the same route start at smaller school(oral roberts, utep) go to big team in big conference and make them awesome(Illinois, A&M) Bail on them after 2/3 years and go to powerhouse (UK, KU Couple things. Both Duke and UCLA are much better jobs than Kansas. Indiana probably is no longer up there either. And Gillepsie path was different. He turned around disturbingly bad programs whereas Self inherited a powerhouse at Illinois and, oddly enough, had the talented Mr. Gillepsie on his coaching staff. I like this hire, and tink that in the end, Gillepsie will be seen as the better coach.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:18 PM) Couple things. Both Duke and UCLA are much better jobs than Kansas. Indiana probably is no longer up there either. And Gillepsie path was different. He turned around disturbingly bad programs whereas Self inherited a powerhouse at Illinois and, oddly enough, had the talented Mr. Gillepsie on his coaching staff. I like this hire, and tink that in the end, Gillepsie will be seen as the better coach. I thikn Duke is a one pony show, who knows how they will be after the Devil is gone.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:09 PM) Kruger made us awesome, not Self. Self did a good job maintaining it though. Self's talent made them elite.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 05:45 PM) Self's talent made them elite. Uh, you do realize Self inherited the most talented team in their history as a first year head coach. Edited April 6, 200719 yr by Buehrle>Wood
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:47 PM) Uh, you do realize Self inherited the most talented team in their history as a first year head coach. Weber inherited a more talented team than Self did, by far. Kruger doesn't get enough credit for cleaning up the Henson retiring/not hiring Collins mess, but Self's players made the program what it was until this year. As for Gillespie, he was obviously desperate for this job and probably doesn't care he is option C.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 01:14 PM) Weber inherited a more talented team than Self did, by far. Kruger doesn't get enough credit for cleaning up the Henson retiring/not hiring Collins mess, but Self's players made the program what it was until this year. The man who really doesn't get the credit is McClain. Illinois returned to being a top program in the big ten when they raided Peoria's 4-time(? maybe it was only 3) state championship team, where McClain's son just so happened to play. McClain could have, and would have, guided those players elsewhere if he didn't get what he wanted.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:18 PM) Couple things. Both Duke and UCLA are much better jobs than Kansas. Indiana probably is no longer up there either. And Gillepsie path was different. He turned around disturbingly bad programs whereas Self inherited a powerhouse at Illinois Illinois and powerhouse does not make sense in the same sentence, no matter what era. QUOTE(Jimbo @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:24 PM) I thikn Duke is a one pony show, who knows how they will be after the Devil is gone. Assuming Jeff Capel keeps improving his teams through the ranks, I'd like to think he'd be a hihg candidate.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:47 PM) Uh, you do realize Self inherited the most talented team in their history as a first year head coach. That is until bruce weber walked into a layup.
April 6, 200719 yr QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 08:31 PM) Illinois and powerhouse does not make sense in the same sentence, no matter what era. Assuming Jeff Capel keeps improving his teams through the ranks, I'd like to think he'd be a hihg candidate. J. Dawkins will take over when Coach K is done, guaranteed.
April 6, 200719 yr Uh, why does everyone keep brining up Weber? This was about a Self/Gillipsie comparison. Weber has nothing to do with that. Edited April 6, 200719 yr by Buehrle>Wood
April 6, 200719 yr So UK hires a coach who got arrested for DUI's twice and is also a slimeball when it comes to recruiting. I guess good ol' Mitch Barnhardt had to go against his conservative ways and dig to the bottom of the barrel for this hire. You guys think Sampson is bad, Gillispie has gone on record to say he AVERAGES 8,000 text messages a month.
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