southsideirish71 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 3 starts into this kids career and he looks impressive. He attacks the zone, throws strikes and has a good repertoire. The best thing is a short memory of bad things. Something happens and this kid throws strikes. How many talented pitchers come up, and get overwhelmed with the whole thing and never let their talent show. This is what sets him apart. This kid should watch Buerhle and hopefully learn that cutter this year. If he adds that to this plus change and plus curve and this could be a fun guy to watch. The last time we had a guy like this come up, was Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 now... only if he could get some help from his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 20, 2007 -> 10:14 PM) now... only if he could get some help from his team. Today the run support is there and the defense fall apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I think it's still a little early to say who got the better end of the deal. All I'm saying is so far so good. Bmac didn't look so hot today either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 well, he did only get 2 runs of support. Would be nice if the offense could just open up a game with 5 runs or so, and give him a nice cushion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 is the "fast reply" button broken for everyone else.... I've had my firefox open/computer running for about 90 hours straight. So it could just be they're telling me they're tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Bobby hit 95 yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Like what I've seen so far, for sure! Reserving judgement till he sees a team twice, though. If he learns the Buehrle Cutter though, like you were saying, he'll be killer! Cutter in on the hands of righties is devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 ''Yeah, Toby [Hall] already said that he was going to buy a horseshoe to hang in my locker,'' Danks said. ''A horseshoe, a Jobu statue, anything, but we'll get it figured out.'' Never a bad time to drop a Major League reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 20, 2007 -> 10:21 PM) I think it's still a little early to say who got the better end of the deal. All I'm saying is so far so good. Bmac didn't look so hot today either. Don't forget we also got Masset in the deal, who has been good out of the bullpen. McCarthy has been getting rocked. As for Danks, he has great composure for a pitcher with only 3 MLB starts and 16 IP. I see a little Buehrle in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Danks is looking good, if it wasnt for Uribe he looked solid even against a good hitting team like Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 08:54 AM) Don't forget we also got Masset in the deal, who has been good out of the bullpen. McCarthy has been getting rocked. As for Danks, he has great composure for a pitcher with only 3 MLB starts and 16 IP. I see a little Buehrle in him. In terms of pure stuff, I haven't been awfully-impressed with Danks. McCarthy's stuff is better, IMO. That said, Danks has been producing. And while it's still way too early to call, he alone may have justified the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 McCarthy has mediocre stuff for a righty. Danks has very good stuff for a lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 10:34 AM) McCarthy has mediocre stuff for a righty. Danks has very good stuff for a lefty. That assessment has more to do with statistics than an actual comparison of their stuff. I'd also say that B-Mac's stuff is a little better than "mediocre." But I agree that Danks being a lefty is an inherent plus. LHP starters don't exactly grow on trees. I regularly saw B-Mac hit 93 on the gun last year. I have yet to see Danks top 91 in the two starts of his that I've been able to watch. B-Mac also has a Mussina-like sweeping breaking ball (that he, unforutnately, has trouble locating). Danks doesn't have that kind of movement. Edited April 21, 2007 by WCSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 12:34 PM) McCarthy has mediocre stuff for a righty. Danks has very good stuff for a lefty. I don't know that you can say McCarthy has mediocre stuff. A 91-94 fastball - albeit straight as hell - along with a good curve and change. When located, he's a great pitcher, but that's the entire problem is that he gets his pitches up a lot. If he can add a cutter or a 2-seamer, he'll be in the league for a while as a solid starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Danks has good stuff, his curve is nasty. Plus being a lefty gives him bonus points too. He is always a slow starter, struggles first half of season than dominates 2nd half. So, that tells me Danks is only going to get better as the season progresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I maintain that McCarthy's stuff is mediocre, his control is iffy, and his mechanics will injure him and end his career prematurely if "being bad for Texas" doesn't. I'm just glad we hosed Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 02:35 PM) I maintain that McCarthy's stuff is mediocre, his control is iffy, and his mechanics will injure him and end his career prematurely if "being bad for Texas" doesn't. If there was any veteran pitcher that I could compare McCarthy to, it would be Mike Mussina... especially with regard to their mechanics. Mussina and B-Mac have VERY similar deliveries (although B-Mac doesn't pause for as long when he's pitching from the stretch). Given Mussina's very long and (relatively) injury-free career, I don't see how McCarthy's mechanics are going to tank him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 20, 2007 -> 08:21 PM) I think it's still a little early to say who got the better end of the deal. All I'm saying is so far so good. Bmac didn't look so hot today either. Masset has some really good movement on his heater and a nice looking breaking pitch. He also throws as easy a 94 MPH as I've seen (which makes me think right now that he's taking a couple MPH off his heater, which was advertised as being more mid to upper 90's, in order to get better command/movement). But that 2 seamer he was throwing last night was nasty. Danks has impressive mound presence for a youngster but still looks like a 21 year old when it comes to his command (yes its decent, but its not where it needs to be. The bright side is even without him throwing his curve for strikes he's still rarely getting anyone to square up on him, aside from a few long balls). I'm real excited to have him on the southside (and Massett is no slacker either). QUOTE(WCSox @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 10:33 AM) In terms of pure stuff, I haven't been awfully-impressed with Danks. McCarthy's stuff is better, IMO. That said, Danks has been producing. And while it's still way too early to call, he alone may have justified the trade. Danks changeup is looking like its as good as Bmac's (and Mac has a good changeup) while Danks has thrown a plus plus curve most of his career and has much better life and similar velocity (definitely better life). The one thing Brandon has is superior control but Danks has better pure stuff because with the movement he gets his heater mixed with that change and curve (once he starts throwing strikes) its hard not to see why Ken Williams made this move (and thats not even considering Massett or Rasner). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 03:00 PM) The one thing Brandon has is superior control but Danks has better pure stuff because with the movement he gets his heater mixed with that change and curve (once he starts throwing strikes) its hard not to see why Ken Williams made this move (and thats not even considering Massett or Rasner). You've probably seen more of Danks than I have (a whole two games), so I guess I'll take your word for it. McCarthy had no movement at all on his heater. I would hope that Danks is still building arm strength, though, because that 91 mph heater isn't going to blow away anybody. I also get the feeling that part of the deal involved KW wanting another starting LHP, knowing that Buehrle is gone next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Danks looked good, but I would have liked to have seen the killer instinct and pitch over the Uribe/Mack misplay. Hopefully that doesn't mean he has the old Garland thing of falling to pieces when something bad used to happen behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2007 -> 06:15 PM) Danks looked good, but I would have liked to have seen the killer instinct and pitch over the Uribe/Mack misplay. Hopefully that doesn't mean he has the old Garland thing of falling to pieces when something bad used to happen behind him. It's not like he gave up a homer or a line shot even. It was a grounder between Crede and Uribe. I thought he handled it well and just caught a bad break. Tough crowd Edited April 22, 2007 by Controlled Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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