May 19, 200718 yr Everybody. Manager, players hitting .200, bullpen choking when they finally get runs, all of them. Kenny and a few young guys are the only safe ones, and even that is temporary. We aren't winning anything this year and there is no use keeping all the dead weight on this team.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:48 PM) Everybody. Manager, players hitting .200, bullpen choking when they finally get runs, all of them. Kenny and a few young guys are the only safe ones, and even that is temporary. We aren't winning anything this year and there is no use keeping all the dead weight on this team. its unbeleiveable how bad these two games have been...
May 19, 200718 yr Not sure I agree with everything, but there needs to be a major-shake up in some form. We aren't going to go to the play-offs hovering around .500 all season.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:48 PM) Everybody. Manager, players hitting .200, bullpen choking when they finally get runs, all of them. Kenny and a few young guys are the only safe ones, and even that is temporary. We aren't winning anything this year and there is no use keeping all the dead weight on this team. Ironic coming from me, but show a little patience. No changes will be made until Thome returns and we see him play for a month or so. If things are real bad, the trade deadline will be looming, and then you'll see changes.
May 19, 200718 yr Author This post was thought out too btw. I purposely waited half an hour to make it so my mind wouldn't be so cluttered with over reacting. I kept the post to the facts.
May 19, 200718 yr I give one minute and a half before this crap is cited as evidence on how 'all you f***tards' think.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ May 19, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) Ironic coming from me, but show a little patience. No changes will be made until Thome returns and we see him play for a month or so. If things are real bad, the trade deadline will be looming, and then you'll see changes.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:49 PM) Fire Sale on 35th Street!!! i dont think we should have a firesale, trade everyone with big contracts. keep jenks, thornton, pk,aj, buehrle, danks. the rest, i dont care
May 19, 200718 yr Author QUOTE(fathom @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:50 PM) Ironic coming from me, but show a little patience. No changes will be made until Thome returns and we see him play for a month or so. If things are real bad, the trade deadline will be looming, and then you'll see changes. This team has 0 shot at making the playoffs, and is full of dead weight. Waiting has no use, at all. We are nowhere near good enough to finish higher than 3rd this year. QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) i dont think we should have a firesale, trade everyone with big contracts. keep jenks, thornton, pk,aj, buehrle, danks. the rest, i dont care And fire Ozzie. Add that and that is what i'm basically saying, just in not as calm terms.
May 19, 200718 yr Joe Girardi would make a great new manager, not that anybody is getting fired unless they murder Mike North.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:51 PM) This team has 0 shot at making the playoffs, and is full of dead weight. Waiting has no use, at all. We are nowhere near good enough to finish higher than 3rd this year. And fire Ozzie. Add that and that is what i'm basically saying, just in not as calm terms. I agree they won't make the playoffs....but there's nothing to gain by trading away our veterans right now. Flat out, our minor league development sucks. We can't call up anyone that doesn't look like a Little League hitter. I don't want to see Jerry Owens and Ryan Sweeney battle the rest of the year to see who can ground out more. Just be like me with Ozzie....hope he says something stupid.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(BearSox @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) I'm just dreading monday when all the flub fans run their mouth non-stop. i know...masset pitching tomarrow..doesnt look too good
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:52 PM) Joe Girardi would make a great new manager, not that anybody is getting fired unless they murder Mike North. I want him nowhere near our Sox pitchers....there's a reason almost all of them have gone on the DL since he started with the Marlins.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(fathom @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:53 PM) I agree they won't make the playoffs....but there's nothing to gain by trading away our veterans right now. Flat out, our minor league development sucks. We can't call up anyone that doesn't look like a Little League hitter. I don't want to see Jerry Owens and Ryan Sweeney battle the rest of the year to see who can ground out more. Just be like me with Ozzie....hope he says something stupid. if were not making the playoffs, theres no point in keeping dye, crede, uribe, gooch.
May 19, 200718 yr The only problem with Thome coming back is that these types of injuries linger. I remember when Thomas has a similar injury and sucked all year. Also, Thome can not come out of the bullpen.
May 19, 200718 yr Author QUOTE(fathom @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:53 PM) I agree they won't make the playoffs....but there's nothing to gain by trading away our veterans right now. Flat out, our minor league development sucks. We can't call up anyone that doesn't look like a Little League hitter. I don't want to see Jerry Owens and Ryan Sweeney battle the rest of the year to see who can ground out more. Just be like me with Ozzie....hope he says something stupid. You just explained why we need the firesale. Maybe if we trade some of these overpaid, crappy veterans we can actually have some young talent, it's not like we are going anywhere this way. And firing Ozzie ends all problems with him. QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:54 PM) if were not making the playoffs, theres no point in keeping dye, crede, uribe, gooch. Beat me to it.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) And fire Ozzie. Add that and that is what i'm basically saying, just in not as calm terms. its tough..i agree he hasnt been that great a manager, but i like ozzie a lot. i think thats how a lot of people feel, we agree hes not that good of a manager, but we all like him
May 19, 200718 yr Author QUOTE(BearSox @ May 19, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) I'm just dreading monday when all the flub fans run their mouth non-stop. Ehh 1908 always gets them quiet. This isn't about that, my anger is about 4/5 the games and 1/5 the opponent the last 2 days.
May 19, 200718 yr QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ May 19, 2007 -> 10:54 PM) if were not making the playoffs, theres no point in keeping dye, crede, uribe, gooch. Of course not, but you have to wait closer to the deadline. If we trade them now, our attendance will be cut in half for next year. Here's the scary part....this team doesn't have just a few holes to fill for the next two years. There's only 5 or 6 guys on the entire roster right now who we can be sure will be here for 2009. Our window is all but closed for being a WS contender. It will be hard to get too upset if we have to rebuild for a few years, as we've been a consistent over .500 team for a long stretch.
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