I don't care in the least little bit.. Bonds is the greatest player of all time

 

Bonds couldn't hold Willie Mays' jock.

Bonds couldn't hold Willie Mays' jock.

Among others. Bonds is the greatest of all time, just like the '72 Dolphins are the greatest of all time...

 

Among others. Bonds is the greatest of all time, just like the '72 Dolphins are the greatest of all time...

 

Wait for it. It'll happen ................

Wait for it. It'll happen ................

Much to my dismay.

That is actually an argument that has legitimate credence. And it's one that will never end.

 

I'd give the edge to Mays in large part because he played a more demanding position, and because he was the best player in a period that wasn't nearly as good offensively as the one currently. However, Bonds is still the only 500-500 player ever, he's one of a few 40-40 players, he has 8 gold gloves, and, regardless of how they were achieved, nobody in major league history has more home runs than him.

 

And then some will talk about Ruth because he has the highest OPS and OPS+ of all time (in fact, no one is even close to him in OPS+...Teddy Ballgame is next and his 191 just looks miniature next to Ruth's 207). Add to it that he was a pretty damn good pitcher too, and that's another argument. He also didn't face nearly the diversity that's in today's game, both in types of pitches and ethnicities of players, so that's an argument against him.

 

It's fun to talk about, but I don't see this argument being anything close to the '72 Dolphins argument.

That is actually an argument that has legitimate credence. And it's one that will never end.

 

I'd give the edge to Mays in large part because he played a more demanding position, and because he was the best player in a period that wasn't nearly as good offensively as the one currently. However, Bonds is still the only 500-500 player ever, he's one of a few 40-40 players, he has 8 gold gloves, and, regardless of how they were achieved, nobody in major league history has more home runs than him.

 

And then some will talk about Ruth because he has the highest OPS and OPS+ of all time (in fact, no one is even close to him in OPS+...Teddy Ballgame is next and his 191 just looks miniature next to Ruth's 207). Add to it that he was a pretty damn good pitcher too, and that's another argument. He also didn't face nearly the diversity that's in today's game, both in types of pitches and ethnicities of players, so that's an argument against him.

 

It's fun to talk about, but I don't see this argument being anything close to the '72 Dolphins argument.

 

Ruth and Williams put up some all time great numbers, no doubt. But the difference is I have seen both Bonds and Mays play the game. There is not one little iota of a question in my mind as to which one was the better ballplayer. And for good measure, I'll throw another name out there. Roberto Clemente.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3271173

 

More positive tests?

According to this story, yes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3271173

 

More positive tests?

According to this story, yes.

Did they actually get access to the 2003 MLB tests?

Did they actually get access to the 2003 MLB tests?

That, I don't know.

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Certainly a black eye for baseball to have arguably the greatest hitter and greatest pitcher of their era both under investigation for PEDs and perjury.

Doesn't seem to be affecting ticket sales, though, so I'm not sure how much Joe Fan cares.

That, I don't know.

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Certainly a black eye for baseball to have arguably the greatest hitter and greatest pitcher of their era both under investigation for PEDs and perjury.

Doesn't seem to be affecting ticket sales, though, so I'm not sure how much Joe Fan cares.

I think baseball's a bit lucky in that they care but not enough to stop going. The Boo's for Bonds came from everyone outside of S.F. it seemed.

Yessssssssss!!!! Still no failed test

 

eat s*** Bonds haters.. Barry is the man!!

 

lol, only took two weeks for this to be exposed as the stupid and ignorant lie it is. We have positive tests in 2001 and 2003 now, if you want to ignore it, fine. But Bonds is not clean, or the man.

Not so fast. It turns out that he didn't fail a test in 2001 after all.

 

It was a typo.

Oh ok, he failed BEFORE he broke the record. that makes it sooooo much better.

lol, only took two weeks for this to be exposed as the stupid and ignorant lie it is. We have positive tests in 2001 and 2003 now, if you want to ignore it, fine. But Bonds is not clean, or the man.

 

oh, but he is the man