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The Democrat Thread

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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 22, 2009 -> 10:17 PM)
I think it would be an ideal solution if the "caretaker" Senator would be considered ineligible for the special election.

 

Yeah. BUt it seems if it's Dukakis that's not a worry THIS time. But giving that person the name recognition is an unfair advantage.

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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 22, 2009 -> 02:17 PM)
I think it would be an ideal solution if the "caretaker" Senator would be considered ineligible for the special election.

Isn't that exactly what this bill says? That was specifically how the late Senator requested it be done.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 22, 2009 -> 03:19 PM)
To back that up:

Glenn Beck Was For TARP Before He Was Against It

 

 

Its amazing what going from CNN to Fox News will do to a guy...

Well, I was and am pissed off at GWB for doing it, but my position hasn't changed, unlike this wishy washy attention whore f***tard.

 

Sarah Palin - the latest conservative to criticize U.S. policy on foreign soil and apologize for America. Flagged as un-American.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 09:19 AM)
Sarah Palin - the latest conservative to criticize U.S. policy on foreign soil and apologize for America. Flagged as un-American.

During a time of war as well. For shame.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:20 AM)
During a time of war as well. For shame.

I didn't even think of that. That is technically treason, or at least aiding and abetting the enemy. This is disturbing.

Seriously though why is she in Hong Kong criticizing health care reform? Why would Chinese investors give a flying f*** about domestic American politics? There is no transcript of her speech but she was apparently going on about death panels again and talking about big government. Really though... I mean at least make a half-assed effort to explain how it could affect China... I mean damn. She doesn't even pretend to understand macroeconomics.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 09:26 AM)
Seriously though why is she in Hong Kong criticizing health care reform? Why would Chinese investors give a flying f*** about domestic American politics? There is no transcript of her speech but she was apparently going on about death panels again and talking about big government. Really though... I mean at least make a half-assed effort to explain how it could affect China... I mean damn. She doesn't even pretend to understand macroeconomics.

 

They are the ones who are going to finance Obama's health plan.

She's trying to stay out of the spotlight so that people will stop criticizing her and her family.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:27 AM)
They are the ones who are going to finance Obama's health plan.

Yeah but that's not what she's talking about and she didn't even try to go there. Generally speaking, in foreign policy nobody gives a s*** about someone else's domestic politics (except some people here in the U.S.).

she was warning Chinese about big government?

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:33 AM)
she was warning Chinese about big government?

Yes she was. And of course "freedom." In China. I have to imagine that got some silent chuckles.

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Ugh that woman is among the dumbest in the world.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 09:58 AM)
Ugh that woman is among the dumbest in the world.

I'm sure she is actually smarter than the average American on the street. But she isn't the sharpest tool among high level leaders, to say the least, and she makes it worse by playing up the whole home-town-girl schtick because she thinks if works for her (and to a certain degree, she is right). More than anything, she is just an embarrassment.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 11:11 AM)
I'm sure she is actually smarter than the average American on the street. But she isn't the sharpest tool among high level leaders, to say the least, and she makes it worse by playing up the whole home-town-girl schtick because she thinks if works for her (and to a certain degree, she is right). More than anything, she is just an embarrassment.

 

After all she reads all of the papers. All of them.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:11 AM)
I'm sure she is actually smarter than the average American on the street. But she isn't the sharpest tool among high level leaders, to say the least, and she makes it worse by playing up the whole home-town-girl schtick because she thinks if works for her (and to a certain degree, she is right). More than anything, she is just an embarrassment.

 

I'm beginning to think more and more that the dumb hometown bimbo isn't a schtick. Its been going on for too long and its too consistent.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:21 AM)
I'm beginning to think more and more that the dumb hometown bimbo isn't a schtick. Its been going on for too long and its too consistent.

I am not saying its 100% a play, I think its an exaggeration. I think she plays up certain aspects of her personality for effect.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:26 AM)
I am not saying its 100% a play, I think its an exaggeration. I think she plays up certain aspects of her personality for effect.

At this point has anyone seen her "normal" personality? I'm starting to think this is it.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:29 AM)
At this point has anyone seen her "normal" personality? I'm starting to think this is it.

I've listened to some of her speeches and seen interviews, and what I see is a wavering back and forth that I believe is her injecting exaggerated quirks for effect. But she has been doing it so long, its probably instinctive now. And no, obviously, I don't know here personally so I can't say for sure. Just my opinion.

 

In any case, real or fake or a bit of both, she belongs nowhere near any sort of leadership position - she is either really that dumb (which I find unlikely), or she is just a little dumber than the people typically at her level but plays up the hick angle which says she thinks everyone else is stupid. Just not good, either way.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 04:37 PM)
I've listened to some of her speeches and seen interviews, and what I see is a wavering back and forth that I believe is her injecting exaggerated quirks for effect. But she has been doing it so long, its probably instinctive now. And no, obviously, I don't know here personally so I can't say for sure. Just my opinion.

 

In any case, real or fake or a bit of both, she belongs nowhere near any sort of leadership position - she is either really that dumb (which I find unlikely), or she is just a little dumber than the people typically at her level but plays up the hick angle which says she thinks everyone else is stupid. Just not good, either way.

 

has there ever been this kind of "aww shucks, i'm dumb" type politician before?

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:45 AM)
has there ever been this kind of "aww shucks, i'm dumb" type politician before?

 

Jimmy Carter?

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 08:45 AM)
has there ever been this kind of "aww shucks, i'm dumb" type politician before?

George W. Bush.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 10:50 AM)
Jimmy Carter?

When it comes to talking policy it would be like comparing Krugman to Beavis.

Reagan but he wasn't actually dumb. Palin on the other hand I'm convinced I could talk circles around. In 6 weeks I'll also have the same level of education she has except I will have gotten more out of mine.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 23, 2009 -> 11:53 AM)
Reagan but he wasn't actually dumb. Palin on the other hand I'm convinced I could talk circles around. In 6 weeks I'll also have the same level of education she has except I will have gotten more out of mine.

 

Usually anti-intellectual populist figures with a grasp on actual power are fairly intellectual themselves - having gone to good schools, etc.

 

Palin seems to be a solid exception to that rule.

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