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The Democrat Thread

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 08:58 AM)
Shocker.

 

What does that mean? Time to raise taxes.

Unfortunately living in a 0% tax environment that you'd like to see would probably cause chaos.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 09:05 AM)
Unfortunately living in a 0% tax environment that you'd like to see would probably cause chaos.

 

It has already caused lots of problems as about half of the country is there now.

Crybabyinsulting my intelligence again. lol, if you get eviscerated by Katie Couric, the notorious softballer, something is wrong with you.

 

The AP got its hands on a copy of Sarah Palin's as-yet-unreleased memoir, which has already been a best-seller for weeks. It found a "folksy," "homespun" book that takes aim at just about everyone associated with the ex-governor's disastrous vice-presidential bid: McCain staffers, her makeover team, Katie Couric. Couric, she says, was condescending, "badgering," and doesn't know her energy policy. Many of Palin's gripes about her campaign handlers (like the fact that she wasn't allowed to give a speech on election night) are familiar, but she levels a few new charges. She says she was stuck with a $50,000 legal bill from the campaign that she wouldn't have had to pay had McCain won (a charge former McCain staffers deny). She also says the campaign was responsible for the family-wide makeover that made her wonder "if she and her clan came across as 'that' unpresentable." The one person who doesn't come in for criticism is her oldest daughter's ex-boyfriend. Levi Johnston, the father of Palin's grandson, isn't mentioned once in the book (although it's sort of hard to tell, seeing as how there's no index).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 07:26 AM)
It has already caused lots of problems as about half of the country is there now.

But the other half pays their taxes on the bonuses handed out after getting government bailouts, so everything works out great.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 06:58 AM)
Shocker.

 

What does that mean? Time to raise taxes.

Focusing on deficits or raising taxes right now...great idea. worked in 1936.

Via TPM-

The Danville, Virginia Tea Party organization has announced a "Fired Up for Freedom" rally at which they'll burn Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA) in effigy, along with Speaker Pelosi.

 

No end to the crazy.

 

I'm so old I can remember when ritualized symbolic execution of public officials wasn't cool.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 02:32 PM)
Via TPM-

That's a bit much. Actually, I think that could even be potentially criminal. Depends on the statutes as written, but, I could see that being something like assault (threats to life are assault), or possibly something lower level in the terrorism/mob action category.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 12:35 PM)
That's a bit much. Actually, I think that could even be potentially criminal. Depends on the statutes as written, but, I could see that being something like assault (threats to life are assault), or possibly something lower level in the terrorism/mob action category.

If burning someone in effigy is terrorism, then I don't want to live in this country any more.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 02:36 PM)
If burning someone in effigy is terrorism, then I don't want to live in this country any more.

The charge "terrorism" is a difficult beast. We think of it in terms of global terror, because of events since 9/11. But state criminal law has had that category on the books for a long, long time, and the precise use of it varies from state to state.

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 02:36 PM)
If burning someone in effigy is terrorism, then I don't want to live in this country any more.

 

^^^

Is this seriously the Republican line of thinking on Afghanistan? (written by the "dean of the washington press corps")

It is evident from the length of this deliberative process and from the flood of leaks that have emerged from Kabul and Washington that the perfect course of action does not exist. Given that reality, the urgent necessity is to make a decision -- whether or not it is right.

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 15, 2009 -> 05:22 PM)
Is this seriously the Republican line of thinking on Afghanistan? (written by the "dean of the washington press corps")

Sounds pretty much like BushCo to a tee.

 

This is one of the truely massive differences between Obama and Bush - considered decisionmaking, versus shooting from the hip. Mind you, I am not saying either is somehow 100% correct. But in the great majority of cases, including a long conflict like Afghanistan, I definitely agree its better to make a studied decision.

 

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 09:34 AM)
Crybabyinsulting my intelligence again. lol, if you get eviscerated by Katie Couric, the notorious softballer, something is wrong with you.

 

The AP got its hands on a copy of Sarah Palin's as-yet-unreleased memoir, which has already been a best-seller for weeks. It found a "folksy," "homespun" book that takes aim at just about everyone associated with the ex-governor's disastrous vice-presidential bid: McCain staffers, her makeover team, Katie Couric. Couric, she says, was condescending, "badgering," and doesn't know her energy policy. Many of Palin's gripes about her campaign handlers (like the fact that she wasn't allowed to give a speech on election night) are familiar, but she levels a few new charges. She says she was stuck with a $50,000 legal bill from the campaign that she wouldn't have had to pay had McCain won (a charge former McCain staffers deny). She also says the campaign was responsible for the family-wide makeover that made her wonder "if she and her clan came across as 'that' unpresentable." The one person who doesn't come in for criticism is her oldest daughter's ex-boyfriend. Levi Johnston, the father of Palin's grandson, isn't mentioned once in the book (although it's sort of hard to tell, seeing as how there's no index).

Palin Accuses AP Of Doing "Opposition Research" In Fact Check of Book

Former Alaska Governor lashed out at the Associated Press Sunday for doing a fact-check on her memoir, "Going Rogue."

 

"Amazingly, but not surprisingly, the AP somehow nabbed a copy of the book before it was released," she wrote on her Facebook page. "They're now erroneously reporting on the book's contents and are repeating many of the same things they spewed during the campaign and afterwards. We've heard 11 writers are engaged in this opposition research, er, "fact checking" research!"

 

The AP reported that Palin's account often contradicted her record as well as current events. Her depiction of the McCain campaign is also frequently at odds with internal campaign emails.

I looked up "rogue" on dictionary.reference.com out of curiosity. Which one of the following applies to Sarah Palin, the self-proclaimed "rogue?" lol.

 

rogue  /roʊg/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rohg] Show IPA noun, verb, rogued, ro⋅guing, adjective

Use rogue in a Sentence

See web results for rogue

See images of rogue

–noun 1. a dishonest, knavish person; scoundrel.

2. a playfully mischievous person; scamp: The youngest boys are little rogues.

3. a tramp or vagabond.

4. a rogue elephant or other animal of similar disposition.

5. Biology. a usually inferior organism, esp. a plant, varying markedly from the normal.

 

–verb (used without object) 6. to live or act as a rogue.

 

–verb (used with object) 7. to cheat.

8. to uproot or destroy (plants, etc., that do not conform to a desired standard).

9. to perform this operation upon: to rogue a field.

 

–adjective 10. (of an animal) having an abnormally savage or unpredictable disposition, as a rogue elephant.

11. no longer obedient, belonging, or accepted and hence not controllable or answerable; deviating, renegade: a rogue cop; a rogue union local.

 

 

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Origin:

1555–65; appar. short for obs. roger begging vagabond, orig. cant word

 

 

Synonyms:

1. villain, trickster, swindler, cheat, mountebank, quack. See knave.

LMAO

Rogues was the name of a high school rock band I played in. We all went to a Catholic prep school, so yeah, we were obviously degenerates and badasses.

 

:lol:

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 16, 2009 -> 09:22 AM)
I looked up "rogue" on dictionary.reference.com out of curiosity. Which one of the following applies to Sarah Palin, the self-proclaimed "rogue?" lol.

 

rogue  /roʊg/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rohg] Show IPA noun, verb, rogued, ro⋅guing, adjective

Use rogue in a Sentence

See web results for rogue

See images of rogue

–noun 1. a dishonest, knavish person; scoundrel.

2. a playfully mischievous person; scamp: The youngest boys are little rogues.

3. a tramp or vagabond.

4. a rogue elephant or other animal of similar disposition.

5. Biology. a usually inferior organism, esp. a plant, varying markedly from the normal.

 

–verb (used without object) 6. to live or act as a rogue.

 

–verb (used with object) 7. to cheat.

8. to uproot or destroy (plants, etc., that do not conform to a desired standard).

9. to perform this operation upon: to rogue a field.

 

–adjective 10. (of an animal) having an abnormally savage or unpredictable disposition, as a rogue elephant.

11. no longer obedient, belonging, or accepted and hence not controllable or answerable; deviating, renegade: a rogue cop; a rogue union local.

 

 

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Origin:

1555–65; appar. short for obs. roger begging vagabond, orig. cant word

 

 

Synonyms:

1. villain, trickster, swindler, cheat, mountebank, quack. See knave.

She titled the book that because the McCain people called her that, not because she "self-proclaimed" that title.

 

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 08:57 AM)
She titled the book that because the McCain people called her that, not because she "self-proclaimed" that title.

They weren't complimenting her when they said she went rogue. Curious why she would decide to use it as her title.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 09:57 AM)
She titled the book that because the McCain people called her that, not because she "self-proclaimed" that title.

Self-proclaimed because she titled the book "Going Rogue." Btw the expression was coined here. (Yeah, I know Slate is a liberal magazine, but still.) It wasn't originally intended as a compliment.

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Just to give you the flavor of this interview, Bill O'Reilly wraps it up with this question of Lou Dobbs: "Barack Obama -- is he the devil?"
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