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The Democrat Thread

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Yeah, might as well post this. The running gag right now on the left is...Look...Eric Massa! John Edwards's mistress!

A federal grand jury has issued subpoenas to a Republican campaign committee and companies in Nevada in a probe of Sen. John Ensign, who has been under scrutiny for his efforts to find lobbying work for the husband of his former mistress.

 

One subpoena went to the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which was formerly chaired by Ensign, a Nevada Republican, committee spokesman Brian Walsh said Thursday.

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Greenwald a must read today.

 

EDIT: Apparently it was from yesterday but I wasn't in the office to read it.

Edited by BigSqwert

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 12:35 PM)
Greenwald a must read today.

 

EDIT: Apparently it was from yesterday but I wasn't in the office to read it.

 

Pretty much. However, I don't know what they are supposed to do in this situation. For many of these, the status quo is worse, and if you waste any time, you will be out of power in congress. There won't be an overnight progressive revolution in terms of seats, people just need to recognize that this is going to be a long haul. District by district.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 12:35 PM)
Greenwald a must read today.

 

EDIT: Apparently it was from yesterday but I wasn't in the office to read it.

 

wait a second, you have a job? Arent' you a hippy vegan? Clearly you should be happy merely surviving on food stamps and welfare. You can make more money that way. What is happening to this world?

There seems to be some, let's say, "Fun" going on for a certain nameless group of name-calling protestors at the Capitol building today. So far Barney Frank has been called a "F****t" and John Lewis has been called a N****r by the crowd, which then responded with laughter. Rep Slaughter also had a brick thrown at her district office.

It really kind of trips me out when people deny or get bent out of shape when you point out there is a racist current at some of those rallies. How can you deny it? Read the signs and listen to what certain people say, it's clear as day. Just because other douchebags are doing it and you happen to agree with the rally/protest in principle doesn't mean you are also a racist.

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-M.D.) supposedly was spit on by a protester.

Pathetic

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 20, 2010 -> 05:23 PM)
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-M.D.) supposedly was spit on by a protester.

 

 

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release the hounds

Remember all the times that people would interrupt a speech by Bush and then get escorted out of the chamber? Remember all the times the Democrats stood up and cheered for them? Yeah, I don't either.

A protester sitting in the House gallery just disrupted the early business going on in the chamber by screaming out: "The people have said no!" and "You took an oath." Leadership tried to gavel the members back into session and ordered the Sargent in Arms to remove the unruly man. Before he was escorted out, however, he did receive a fair amount of applause from the Republican side of the aisle.

Frank comments to the press.

Democratic Rep. Barney Frank emerged from the House chamber and complained that dozens of Republican lawmakers cheered on a protester in the gallery, who yelled at members to kill the bill even as ushers attempted to restrain and remove him from the chamber.

 

"Did you guys see the Republicans encouraging the disruption?" the Massachusetts congressman told about 15 reporters right outside the House chamber. "These clowns are out there encouraging violation of the law and making the job of the guys up there harder. It's really disgraceful."

 

Frank said he's never seen such bad behavior on the floor.

 

"It is a dangerous situation, and the Republicans are cheering them on. ... People can get hurt. People can fall down. I've never seen this!"

 

"That's why you get this kind of virulent hatred outside," he said.

Sometimes, it's nice when they say what they're really thinking. Newt Gingrich believes passing the health care bill is the biggest mistake for the Democratic Party since they passed civil rights legislation.

But former Republican House speaker Newt Gingrich said Obama and the Democrats will regret their decision to push for comprehensive reform. Calling the bill "the most radical social experiment . . . in modern times," Gingrich said: "They will have destroyed their party much as Lyndon Johnson shattered the Democratic Party for 40 years" with the enactment of civil rights legislation in the 1960s.

That's why, as yglesias says, majorities are for doing things.

Today, over 200,000 protesters gathered on the Capitol steps to protest the Health Care bill. As per usual, the media ignored them completely. Damn liberal media.

 

Oh wait, they were immigration reform advocates. They're ok to ignore. Look, 200 tea-baggers!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 08:45 PM)
Today, over 200,000 protesters gathered on the Capitol steps to protest the Health Care bill. As per usual, the media ignored them completely. Damn liberal media.

 

Oh wait, they were immigration reform advocates. They're ok to ignore. Look, 200 tea-baggers!

 

Gotta love the tea party folks. They know how to get on TV

QUOTE (Tex @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 09:50 PM)
Gotta love the tea party folks. They know how to get on TV

Step 1:

 

"Be White and male"

 

Step 2:

 

"Don't be not white and not male."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 08:51 PM)
Step 1:

 

"Be White and male"

 

Step 2:

 

"Don't be not white and not male."

:lolhitting

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 08:51 PM)
Step 1:

 

"Be White and male"

 

Step 2:

 

"Don't be not white and not male."

 

 

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 09:01 PM)
:lolhitting

 

 

Nicely played. :)

you have to be old, too. Obviously.

Huffpo commenters have been whining for months about how Obama abandoned them and they want to primary him because he is a failure, weak leader who hasn't accomplished anything etc. and they hate this bill and now they're pretty much ecstatic. I wonder if support is going to come back from the left now that it's actually passed? It's kind of odd, because only in the last month or so did they actually start really pushing the bill that they hated a couple of months ago. It's like the more they saw Obama in public pushing healthcare reform the more they supported it, and if he was staying quiet they would get all pissy.

 

Eh whatever I'm just glad this embarrassing chapter is close to over, so on to the next agenda item

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 10:48 PM)
Eh whatever I'm just glad this embarrassing chapter is close to over, so on to the next agenda item

 

i heard immigration reform is next. the next chapter might, amazingly enough, be worse.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Mar 22, 2010 -> 12:01 AM)
i heard immigration reform is next. the next chapter might, amazingly enough, be worse.

Yeah... oh my god I still remember when President Bush tried pushing what was actually a pretty reasonable compromise. What a clusterf***

I think there had to be some time to simmer after the PO died. The b**** back then was lieberman.

 

I think the reason you saw such little action from the left was because we had the numbers, it was just frustrating because it was like " DO YOUR JOBS. WE ELECTED YOU OR AT LEAST FILLED YOUR COFFERS".

 

And then Scott Brown came, and when the left came in contact with literally facing just the status quo, i think they realized what that meant. That's when you saw the million phone calls for reform and the letters fly. That's when Hamsher was marginalized. That's when the tide turned.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 11:03 PM)
Yeah... oh my god I still remember when President Bush tried pushing what was actually a pretty reasonable compromise. What a clusterf***

That was one area where I was pretty OK with Bush's take on things, and yeah, he got stomped into the ground on it. To say its a contentious debate is an understatement.

 

I am hoping that they use the wave of political capital that will follow this health care thing, to pass a decent energy bill. Somehow I doubt that happens. Probably they'll do immigration reform next, as you said, and wait for energy until summer when gas prices are far higher.

 

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