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The Democrat Thread

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 21, 2010 -> 01:18 PM)
He's not going to win the GOP nomination, that's become clear. So if he wants to run for re-election he has no choice but to run as an I. It's not official but I'd say it's pretty much accepted thats whats happening.

 

Unless this Rubio investigation is as bad as some people seem to think it is.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 21, 2010 -> 01:18 PM)
He's not going to win the GOP nomination, that's become clear. So if he wants to run for re-election he has no choice but to run as an I. It's not official but I'd say it's pretty much accepted thats whats happening.

At least to my eyes, this fact was obvious 2-3 months ago. Which is why I asked if it was confirmed. Yeah, the deadline is now approaching, but he could have done that move a couple months ago.

Honestly, this country is going to s***, most of our elected officials are children, and the people covering them are even worse.

Crist isn't running for re-election ChiSox, he's running for senate.

 

I'm not sure how much this helps meeks. I think this will tear away a fair share of lean-dem independents who view him now as a true moderate - which is what everyone claims to love b/c they stop following them after they are elected.

There's stupid Democrats too. It knows no partisanship.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2010 -> 02:54 AM)
Brian Bilbray (R-CA) believes you can spot illegal immigrants based on how they're dressed.

 

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I argued with some Birthers today on Slate. I don't even know what the f*** they were doing there, it's not exactly their turf, but they came out of the woodwork anyway. I felt the same way I would feel after kicking the s*** out of a 4th grader. Obviously I won easily, but I feel bad for even fighting in the first place because of my massive advantage. But the difference is, a 4th grader doesn't usually deserve to have the s*** kicked out of them.

 

These dudes are fascinating and creepy though... logic, facts, and deductive reasoning carry no traction whatsoever with them. It's not like this is a new phenomenon in political discussions, but they literally make up facts as they go along, if you comprehensively debunk something they claim, they don't admit you debunked it, they just move on to something else. They invent laws and legal precedent out of thin air. It's hilarious. I love the claim that you can't get a passport with a "certificate of live birth" and only the original birth certificate (that Hawaii doesn't even issue anymore, I don't think). One went so far as to say that even Little League won't accept the certificate Obama released. lol, that's funny to me. I have a "certificate of live birth" that my parents specifically ordered in 1994 so I could play in Little League. I used that same non-valid piece of paper to join the military, obtain a security clearance, work for the government, etc. Oh and to get a passport. Right. But it's not valid.

hawaii doesn't issue it anymore. And it's saved them lots of money, I believe. You'd think it would be something these mopes would approve of.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 22, 2010 -> 10:48 PM)
I argued with some Birthers today on Slate. I don't even know what the f*** they were doing there, it's not exactly their turf, but they came out of the woodwork anyway. I felt the same way I would feel after kicking the s*** out of a 4th grader. Obviously I won easily, but I feel bad for even fighting in the first place because of my massive advantage. But the difference is, a 4th grader doesn't usually deserve to have the s*** kicked out of them.

 

These dudes are fascinating and creepy though... logic, facts, and deductive reasoning carry no traction whatsoever with them. It's not like this is a new phenomenon in political discussions, but they literally make up facts as they go along, if you comprehensively debunk something they claim, they don't admit you debunked it, they just move on to something else. They invent laws and legal precedent out of thin air. It's hilarious. I love the claim that you can't get a passport with a "certificate of live birth" and only the original birth certificate (that Hawaii doesn't even issue anymore, I don't think). One went so far as to say that even Little League won't accept the certificate Obama released. lol, that's funny to me. I have a "certificate of live birth" that my parents specifically ordered in 1994 so I could play in Little League. I used that same non-valid piece of paper to join the military, obtain a security clearance, work for the government, etc. Oh and to get a passport. Right. But it's not valid.

 

Creationists and pretty much all pseudoscience practitioners do the same thing. Read Morton's Demon:

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/feb02.html

Ouch. Imagine if the tea party was black.
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2010 -> 08:40 PM)
Ouch. Imagine if the tea party was black.

 

 

This is the biggest piece of s*** article I've read in a long time. Keep spreading the hate, cause after all, this is exactly what the Tea Party is all about. We gotta make sure that word gets out.

I find it funny how the Tea Party paints Obama as a socialist, fascist, communist, etc. even though if this were 1978 his policies would equal that of a moderate Republican.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:18 AM)
I find it funny how the Tea Party paints Obama as a socialist, fascist, communist, etc. even though if this were 1978 his policies would equal that of a moderate Republican.

 

He is socialist, on our political spectrum. Facist, communist? No. You're at lease socialist. Who cares? It's the truth. Accept it, and move on. But, I understand. We need to lable the tea party as racist so we can disband of this notion that they might have real issues with the government.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:20 AM)
He is socialist, on our political spectrum.

Perhaps you didn't see the tax rates of Reagan's vs Obama's.

Socialist isn't a sliding scale you can arbitrarily redefine.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:18 AM)
I find it funny how the Tea Party paints Obama as a socialist, fascist, communist, etc. even though if this were 1978 his policies would equal that of a moderate Republican.

 

I think it is funny the same people who bristle so hard at those kind of labels are the first to celebrate the exact same thing being done to the Tea Party's.

who cares, my only goal in life is to take their country away from them, hold it over them and slowly crush them and as they are screaming, begging, for me to stop, i'll look down at them and say "no."

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 10:20 AM)
He is socialist, on our political spectrum. Facist, communist? No. You're at lease socialist. Who cares? It's the truth. Accept it, and move on. But, I understand. We need to lable the tea party as racist so we can disband of this notion that they might have real issues with the government.

 

I thought the Tea Party was about taxes that have just gotten too high despite the fact that for 98% of the country taxes haven't been lower in over 60 years.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 25, 2010 -> 09:20 AM)
He is socialist, on our political spectrum. Facist, communist? No. You're at lease socialist. Who cares? It's the truth. Accept it, and move on. But, I understand. We need to lable the tea party as racist so we can disband of this notion that they might have real issues with the government.

 

 

There's no such thing as socialism "on our political spectrum." There's a political spectrum and everyone fits on it as such. American conservatives don't define political ideologies.

obama might be a facist, we have no way of knowing.

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