Aw f*** Balta you're gonna make me go upstairs and get my pint of Hennessy?

I feel bad for all those people with the 1-20-09 bumper stickers.

Aw f*** Balta you're gonna make me go upstairs and get my pint of Hennessy?

Yes.

 

Bottle of Jim Beam beside me. But then again, I'm next to Death Valley in a town of 100 people. But I do have a transistor radio for tomorrow morning.

 

Damn, those years sucked.

Well technically, you didn't use the exact phrase, so my liver is in the clear.

I feel bad for all those people with the 1-20-09 bumper stickers.

 

I saw a "thank you George W. Bush for keeping our country safe" bumper sticker today.

Bill Clinton did a better job.

Bill Clinton did a better job.

So Did William Henry Harrison.

So Did William Henry Harrison.

Yeah but the people with that Bush bumper sticker haven't been programmed to hate William Henry Harrison.

are you sure of this?

well his name does sound pretty elitist.

8 years ago, our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity ended.

Looking back, maybe 10 years from now, we'll have a better idea of Bush's place in history. But that isn't to say we can't judge some of his actions now, and as of this point, I can't think of a worse President since the Depression.

 

There's still a lot of stuff we don't know. I would say more like 15 years from now, when some of the records are released... we will be able to judge better.

 

There's still a lot of stuff we don't know. I would say more like 15 years from now, when some of the records are released... we will be able to judge better.

 

What some people making the "we can't judge him for a while" argument miss (and I don't mean you or anyone else here, but the Bush apologist articles) is that we could very well end up viewing him even worse than we do now.

What some people making the "we can't judge him for a while" argument miss (and I don't mean you or anyone else here, but the Bush apologist articles) is that we could very well end up viewing him even worse than we do now.

Could be. My perceptions of various Presidents changed as time passed after they left, some for better (Clinton, Bush 41), some for worse (Reagan, Carter).

 

Could be. My perceptions of various Presidents changed as time passed after they left, some for better (Clinton, Bush 41), some for worse (Reagan, Carter).

 

I think they're just grasping on to "but Truman left with bad ratings and look at him now!" while ignoring the (many more) Presidents who left with bad ratings and are still viewed as terrible.

I think they're just grasping on to "but Truman left with bad ratings and look at him now!" while ignoring the (many more) Presidents who left with bad ratings and are still viewed as terrible.

I think there are a wide variety of examples of all cases. Reagan was so very popular, but over time, looked a little less perfect. Clinton was popular but not Reagan-esque and was personally despised by many, and yet he seems to have come off a bit better since. Carter was seen as pretty bad then, even worse now. Bush 41 is one who was not well-evaluated at the time, but seems now was not nearly so bad.

 

Looking back, maybe 10 years from now, we'll have a better idea of Bush's place in history. But that isn't to say we can't judge some of his actions now, and as of this point, I can't think of a worse President since the Depression.

I really cant differentiate between Bush, Carter, Nixon and Reagan. There's reasons you can say each one of those guys was worse than the others.

Well, it's time for some change I can believe in... hopefully.

Awesome photo

 

The Pundits Who Had Not A Clue Two Years Ago

Mark Nickolas

Managing Editor, PoliticalBase.com

 

On this historic day, I thought it would be instructive to look back on just how wrong some of the pundits were when Barack Obama (D) launched his bid for the presidency two years ago, including the embarrassing remark by an esteemed member of the self-described "Best Political Team on Television" (CNN):

"Illinoi

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S

enator Barac

k

Obama'

s

announcement thi

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wee

k

that he'

s

li

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ely to enter the Pre

s

idential race add

s

a da

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h of glamour and excitement to the Democratic field. But all of hi

s

media attention doe

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n't change the ba

s

ic truth of the 2008 primary conte

s

t: The race i

s

between Hillary Rodham Clinton and everybody el

s

e." The Wall

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treet Journal Editorial Board, Jan. 18, 2007.

 

"A

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k

your

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elf, i

s

there any other major public figure who dre

s

s

e

s

the way [Obama] doe

s

? Why, ye

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. It i

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Iranian Pre

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ident Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who, unli

k

e mo

s

t of hi

s

predece

s

s

or

s

,

s

eem

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to have

s

k

ipped through enough copie

s

of 'GQ' to find the jac

k

et-and-no-tie loo

k

agreeable. And maybe that'

s

not the compari

s

on a po

s

s

ible pre

s

idential contender really want

s

to evo

k

e... Now, it i

s

one thing to have a la

s

t name that

s

ound

s

li

k

e O

s

ama and a middle name, Hu

s

s

ein, that i

s

probably le

s

s

than helpful. But an outfit that remind

s

people of a charter member of the axi

s

of evil, why, thi

s

could leave hi

s

pre

s

idential hope

s

hanging by a thread. Or i

s

that thread

s

?" CNN

S

enior Analy

s

t Jeff Greenfield, "The

S

ituation Room," CNN, Dec. 11, 2006.

 

"That

S

en. Barac

k

Hu

s

s

ein Obama Jr. cho

s

e the day of 'American Idol'

s

'

s

ea

s

on premiere to launch hi

s

pre

s

idential exploratory committee i

s

nicely

s

ymbolic. If thi

s

were a conte

s

t about loo

k

s

and

s

tyle, Obama might have an edge. If it were a competition about which candidate i

s

the be

s

t orator, he'd win. But it i

s

neither." Cal Thoma

s

, Wa

s

hington Time

s

, Jan. 19, 2007.

 

"The country will

s

imply not elect a novice in wartime... [Obama] only ha

s

to do rea

s

onably well in the primarie

s

to become

s

uch a compelling national figure a

s

to be invited onto the tic

k

et a

s

vice pre

s

idential nominee... Then, if the Democrat

s

win, he will have all the foreign policy credential

s

he need

s

for life." Charle

s

K

rauthammer, Oct. 27, 2006.

 

Obama "i

s

a blac

k

man with a Mu

s

lim name who would be

s

ee

k

ing the pre

s

idency in a hi

s

torically raci

s

t nation currently at war again

s

t Mu

s

lim extremi

s

t

s

. One wonder

s

if there i

s

enough hand

s

omene

s

s

, intelligence and chari

s

ma in the world to overcome all that." Leonard Pitt

s

, Miami Herald, Jan. 19, 2007.

 

"To the

s

urpri

s

e of many white

s

and di

s

may of hi

s

s

upporter

s

, Barac

k

Obama trailed Hillary Clinton among blac

k

American

s

by a 40-point margin in a recent Wa

s

hington Po

s

t-ABC poll... The

s

ad truth... i

s

that Obama i

s

being rejected becau

s

e many blac

k

American

s

don't con

s

ider him one of their own and may even feel threatened by what he embodie

s

." Orlando Patter

s

on, Time.com, Feb. 8, 2007.

 

"What'

s

a guy with only two year

s

' experience in the U.

S

.

S

enate and none a

s

governor,

s

omeone few out

s

ide hi

s

immediate family and the Internal Revenue

S

ervice ever heard of three year

s

ago, doing running for pre

s

ident? And why i

s

everybody--or anybody, for the matter--ta

k

ing him

s

eriou

s

ly?" John Farmer, The New Jer

s

ey

S

tar Ledger, Dec. 12, 2006.

So, whose compass was registering properly two years ago? How about former House Speaker Newt Gingrich?

"Well, Abraham Lincoln

s

erved two year

s

in the U.

S

. Hou

s

e, and

s

eemed to do all right." Newt Gingrich, "Meet the Pre

s

s

," NBC, Dec. 17, 2006, when a

s

k

ed about Obama'

s

lac

k

of experience.

 

"I do thin

k

every Republican ought to loo

k

at the reception Barac

k

Obama got a wee

k

ago [during hi

s

very well-received fir

s

t vi

s

it to New Hamp

s

hire]... The intere

s

t in him tell

s

you

s

omething about American

s

more than it tell

s

you about him." Newt Gingrich, Dec. 15, 2006.

 

LINK

LINK

 

Newt is one of the most intelligent leaders we have had. I am not surprised he did not dismiss Obama's candidacy.

Newt is a historian. I wish he knew how to keep his pants zipped up, but that's another story. Funny how he's judged so poorly for that and Clinton's episodes "didn't matter". With that said, Newt is a very, very smart politician - no matter what party affiliation he is.

 

Funny how he's judged so poorly for that and Clinton's episodes "didn't matter".

 

What?

What?

Newt's infidelity was one of his major downfalls. For Clinton, "it didn't matter".