Sure, he's fair enough but he's unique in that he's always struck out a ton but walked a ton and generally hit for much higher averages than most people who strike-out as much as he does. That's two, then, with Killebrew, who have had HOF careers.

Sure, he's fair enough but he's unique in that he's always struck out a ton but walked a ton and generally hit for much higher averages than most people who strike-out as much as he does. That's two, then, with Killebrew, who have had HOF careers.

After you posted I added Reggie Jackson. That's one you've got to give me. nearly 600 more k's in his career than Thome to this point. Here's the k record holder list.

Most high-strikeout high-homer numbers guys flame out with time. Typically they are not fundamentally sound, they don't play good defense, and they get hurt from swinging so hard on every single pitch with all of their weight and energy behind it. I wouldn't put money on Ryan Howard or Prince Fielder having long healthy, productive careers because I expect them to flame out eventually, probably sooner rather than later, like Cecil Fielder. They're fun to watch swing, though. Of course there are exceptions, but not many, and fewer in the Hall of Fame.

Most high-strikeout high-homer numbers guys flame out with time. Typically they are not fundamentally sound, they don't play good defense, and they get hurt from swinging so hard on every single pitch with all of their weight and energy behind it. I wouldn't put money on Ryan Howard or Prince Fielder having long healthy, productive careers because I expect them to flame out eventually, probably sooner rather than later, like Cecil Fielder. They're fun to watch swing, though. Of course there are exceptions, but not many, and fewer in the Hall of Fame.

That's just not true, IMO. If someone swung with all of their weight and energy behind it on every single pitch, they'd be lucky to bat .200 (and that's if they're extremely talented). Swinging with full power and strength leaves you with no control. Basically you'd be hoping that the ball hits your bat.

 

Most hitters swing with about 90% of their strength, with power hitters, like Jim Thome, rearing back once in a while and cranking it up to about 95%. Swinging with all of your might though is not smart at all.

 

Reggie Jackson is the exception here though, because everytime he swung the bat, he wanted to hit the ball a mile.

God, I hope not. If we enter another season with him as a starter for us, I might jump off a building.

 

Two questions:

 

1. How tall of a building?

 

2. Will there be tickets sold?

I would like to see Juan Uribe return, but I don't see the Sox signing him as a super sub at $4.5 or so. Maybe I am wrong, but I would guess they wil bring up Getz or someone to be the sub. Of course it all depends on what they do with OC too. We could see Juan at 2B and Ramirez moving to SS.

Reggie Jackson is the exception here though, because everytime he swung the bat, he wanted to hit the ball a mile.

Dick Allen is a pretty good example of guys who swung as hard as they could every at bat.

Two questions:

 

1. How tall of a building?

 

2. Will there be tickets sold?

1. 1 story building.

 

2. If people want to see a man make a jackass of himself, the event will be available for free.

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I think my question is what are the chances that Uribe is the starting 3B next season?

 

Please no, he's been our starting 2B and SS, we don't need him to take over 3B too.

I'd take him back as our 4th infielder any day of the week, but not as a fulltime starter. Unfortanately he will likely sign elsewhere to become a fulltime starting SS. Teams like SF and Baltamore will likely pick him up. My guess is KW will attempt to resign Crede but talks with Boras will go nowhere. So i can see KW trying his best to get a guy like Figgins again. Its definitley a defensive downgrade but KW has been be in love with this guy for awhile. ANd we all know that if KW is in love with a player, he'll eventually get him.

Erstad in 2001, eventually got him in 2007.

Thome when he left Cleveland got him in 2006

Griffey in 2005, got him in 2008

Figgins in 2007 and 2008, get him in 2009?

You could also bring up guys like the Alomars, and Everett etc.... Oh BTW KW is also in love with Orlando Hudson. So we may see an infield of Hudson, Ramirez, and Figgins next year..which isn't too bad.

I'd rather have Blake at 3B, Lexei at SS, Hudson/Roberts at 2B, and then Juan as our 4th guy. Although, like somebody said, if Getz is making progress, he wouldn't be a bad guy to have as a 4th IF'er.

Please no, he's been our starting 2B and SS, we don't need him to take over 3B too.

 

I know.

 

How can a guy who hits as awesomely profundo as Juannie, play all three positions at one time?

I know.

 

How can a guy who hits as awesomely profundo as Juannie, play all three positions at one time?

 

haha you know what I mean.

for the right price i'd have no problem bringing uribe back next year. $4.5 million is not the right price, but who knows what he commands on the open market.

 

either way, i've gained a lot of respect for uribe this year. he's taken his demotion in stride and when he's been called on to fill in at second or third (positions he hasn't played regularly since he's been with the sox) he's played strong and sometimes spectacular defense. at the plate, he is what he is, but there is a lot of value in a guy who can play starter-level defense at three infield positions.

Why is that? Crede isn't going to be a type A FA. So his only chance is really being a type B FA.

I still hold a little hope that he somehow might get to Type A (granted it's below 5%).

 

So I guess Type B is the best we can hope for. Better than nothing I suppose.

I still hold a little hope that he somehow might get to Type A (granted it's below 5%).

 

So I guess Type B is the best we can hope for. Better than nothing I suppose.

Not a chance in hell.

Not a chance in hell.

Yeah if he was healthy and made it to 30HR's, then maybe there was a little chance, but with the way things are going with Joe right now, I don't even know when we're going to see him in a White Sox uniform again.

Uribe would be nice to have as a 4th middle infielder defensive sub if he's real cheap. Like $2 million. I bet someone will give him more than thatm though.

Uribe would be nice to have as a 4th middle infielder defensive sub if he's real cheap. Like $2 million. I bet someone will give him more than thatm though.

 

I agree, I agree, and I agree. Further than that, I see the Red Sox attempting to deal Julio Lugo this offseason and trying to sign Uribe. Uribe has 30 homer potential with a .250 average and gold glove defense...they tried that with Alex Gonzalez but I'd bet a good amount of money they'd try it again.

 

I envision Boston signing Uribe for a 1 year, $5 mill contract with a team option for the next year worth around $7 mill and slipping him into the starting lineup at shortstop.

Uribe would be nice to have as a 4th middle infielder defensive sub if he's real cheap. Like $2 million. I bet someone will give him more than thatm though.

 

Given that Uribe is making $4.5 million this year and is more than defensively competent at three infield positions, there's about a snowball's chance in hell that he'll take a massive paycut.

 

If I were Kenny, I'd probably offer him a $10 million over two years. Assuming that Alexei moves to SS, Getz would be our only ML-ready in-house option at 2B and we'd be relying on signing a FA to play 3B. It might be worth over-paying for Juan (like Kenny did earlier this year) as an insurance policy.

 

Given that Uribe is making $4.5 million this year and is more than defensively competent at three infield positions, there's about a snowball's chance in hell that he'll take a massive paycut.

 

If I were Kenny, I'd probably offer him a $10 million over two years. Assuming that Alexei moves to SS, Getz would be our only ML-ready in-house option at 2B and we'd be relying on signing a FA to play 3B. It might be worth over-paying for Juan (like Kenny did earlier this year) as an insurance policy.

 

I'd be all for resigning Uribe for 2 years at 5M per. Without Uribe right now, we'd be in deep s***.

That pricetag is still a bit too steep for mine.

 

I'd rather turn it over for Getz, if that's the amount Uribe wanted.

Given that Uribe is making $4.5 million this year and is more than defensively competent at three infield positions, there's about a snowball's chance in hell that he'll take a massive paycut.

 

If I were Kenny, I'd probably offer him a $10 million over two years. Assuming that Alexei moves to SS, Getz would be our only ML-ready in-house option at 2B and we'd be relying on signing a FA to play 3B. It might be worth over-paying for Juan (like Kenny did earlier this year) as an insurance policy.

 

I can't see paying a utility bench player 10 mil "just in case". We have a butt load of SS/2B type guys, and even though Uribe is godly right now, I'd rather put that money somewhere else