Steve9347 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Palin claimed McCain’s health care plan would be “budget neutral,” costing the government nothing. Independent budget experts estimate McCain's plan would cost tens of billions each year, though details are too fuzzy to allow for exact estimates. Close enough though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 After watching the debate last week and the debate last night, I am confident now, more than ever, that Barack Obama is the next president of the united states. He torched McCain last week, and while Palin "held her own", she did nothing to reverse McCain's downward spiral. She may have stabilized it, but in no way turned it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:32 AM) 2 - Yes, you can pronounce the Iranian president's name. Good for you. Doesn't mean you have to say it 5 or 6 times in 2 mins. She's just compensating for McCain not being able to say it last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I just dont get Palin supporters, and I want someone who is really into politics on this site to help me out. If god forbid something happens to McCain if elected, Palin is your pres, are you really comfortable with that? Do you really feel good about her talking about her Mayorship and hockey mom stories to foreign leaders? The VP has some large responsibilities worldwide and I, for one, dont feel that comfortable with her representing and making decisions for this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 10:25 AM) I just dont get Palin supporters, and I want someone who is really into politics on this site to help me out. If god forbid something happens to McCain if elected, Palin is your pres, are you really comfortable with that? Do you really feel good about her talking about her Mayorship and hockey mom stories to foreign leaders? The VP has some large responsibilities worldwide and I, for one, dont feel that comfortable with her representing and making decisions for this country. The GOP has LOVED Bush for years. Only recently have they turned on him after he became unpopular. She's the female Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:25 AM) I just dont get Palin supporters, and I want someone who is really into politics on this site to help me out. If god forbid something happens to McCain if elected, Palin is your pres, are you really comfortable with that? Do you really feel good about her talking about her Mayorship and hockey mom stories to foreign leaders? The VP has some large responsibilities worldwide and I, for one, dont feel that comfortable with her representing and making decisions for this country. You betcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:25 AM) I just dont get Palin supporters, and I want someone who is really into politics on this site to help me out. If god forbid something happens to McCain if elected, Palin is your pres, are you really comfortable with that? Do you really feel good about her talking about her Mayorship and hockey mom stories to foreign leaders? The VP has some large responsibilities worldwide and I, for one, dont feel that comfortable with her representing and making decisions for this country. No, I honestly really dont Edit: However, I am much more comfortable with McCain over Obama. I know that wasnt the question, I just wanted to clarify. Edited October 3, 2008 by DrunkBomber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 A post in the other thread reminded me -- did anyone else catch Biden's heavy sigh when she resorted back to some completely off-topic energy response about half way through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) A post in the other thread reminded me -- did anyone else catch Biden's heavy sigh when she resorted back to some completely off-topic energy response about half way through? He sighed a lot (or someone did) whenever she would get a folksy/cliche track. I was a bit concerned about how that would come off--until I realized I was doing the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Soxy @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:32 AM) He sighed a lot (or someone did) whenever she would get a folksy/cliche track. I was a bit concerned about how that would come off--until I realized I was doing the exact same thing. If there is such thing as a good sigh and a bad one, that was a good one. It would have been worse if he was sighing because he disagreed with her positions. She was just blatantly avoiding questions and using the same talking points. She doesn't even know what the term "Achille's heal" means for crying out loud. Edited October 3, 2008 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:25 AM) I just dont get Palin supporters, and I want someone who is really into politics on this site to help me out. If god forbid something happens to McCain if elected, Palin is your pres, are you really comfortable with that? Do you really feel good about her talking about her Mayorship and hockey mom stories to foreign leaders? The VP has some large responsibilities worldwide and I, for one, dont feel that comfortable with her representing and making decisions for this country. The religious right types love her socially conservative stances, where she is further right than McCain. Some people probably fall for her folksy schtick, and think she's actually somehow a "Joe Six Pack". Yet others are simply interested in seeing an outsider in there. Palin is awful IMO, just to be clear. But I was trying to identify the reasons I've seen so far for why people like her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) A post in the other thread reminded me -- did anyone else catch Biden's heavy sigh when she resorted back to some completely off-topic energy response about half way through? You're right, holy s***... I thought that was the sound of one of my cats hissing at the other again, but it didn't sound right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 10:36 AM) The religious right types love her socially conservative stances The right is going to be really pissed at her answer last night that she supports equal rights for homosexuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 10:34 AM) If there is such thing as a good sigh and a bad one, that was a good one. It would have been worse if he was sighing because he disagreed with her positions. She was just blatantly avoiding questions and using the same talking points. She doesn't even know what the term "Achille's heal" means for crying out loud. Didnt a similar question come up in the Obama / Clinton / Edwards debate? I remember Edwards saying something folksy about Obama's answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) No, I honestly really dont Edit: However, I am much more comfortable with McCain over Obama. I know that wasnt the question, I just wanted to clarify. That's a 100% reasonable stance to have and needs no justification btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 11:20 AM) After watching the debate last week and the debate last night, I am confident now, more than ever, that Barack Obama is the next president of the united states. He torched McCain last week, and while Palin "held her own", she did nothing to reverse McCain's downward spiral. She may have stabilized it, but in no way turned it around. I don't think Obama torched McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 i like mccain, but if he is elected i hope the secret service force is like quadrupled to protect the guy...heaven forbid something should happen to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:54 AM) i like mccain, but if he is elected i hope the secret service force is like quadrupled to protect the guy...heaven forbid something should happen to him You can't exactly miniaturize the Secret Service and have them protect him from his own body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:57 AM) You can't exactly miniaturize the Secret Service and have them protect him from his own body. have you not seen "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"? It can be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) have you not seen "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"? It can be done! magic schoolbus baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:58 AM) have you not seen "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"? It can be done! McCain blocked funding for the earmark for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 10:38 AM) The right is going to be really pissed at her answer last night that she supports equal rights for homosexuals. And homosexuals are going to be pissed that no one wants them to get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:54 AM) i like mccain, but if he is elected i hope the secret service force is like quadrupled to protect the guy...heaven forbid something should happen to him When people talk about Palin being close to the White House it isnt because of assassination concerns, its because of his age. McCain isnt the candidate the Secret Service is worried about protecting IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (sox4lifeinPA @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 12:14 PM) And homosexuals are going to be pissed that no one wants them to get married. And I'm pissed that marriage is even regulated at all by the government. Marriage is a religious idea--civil unions are the legal idea. Let's leave marriage to the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I love how it's ok to be sexist, bigoted, and ageist if it's not your candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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