Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) Thome might be our best bet at DH by default. That certainly doesn't make him the best option. His numbers across the board have declined in the 3 years that he's been here. That's not going to magically change next year. He had two good months all year (and also argubly the biggest hit of the year. Which I am thankful for). He's a feast or famine hitter now. He's either going to hit the ball 10 miles, groundout to the right side when the shift is on or K. Edited October 7, 2008 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I hope they work with Floyd on a cutter. He needs that pitch to keep the lefties honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Oct 7, 2008 -> 02:03 AM) I hope they work with Floyd on a cutter. He needs that pitch to keep the lefties honest. I want to see more change-ups and he should continue to work on his general command of his fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 7, 2008 -> 01:56 AM) I'd have no problem keeping him as a DH. I'm not sure what our options really are there. I don't see many takers for him in the trade market, and I don't know if he reached the AB goal to get his option picked up for 09. I would sacrifice losing some of his power production for more balanced at bats vs RHP/LHP and more contact. I love Tampa's DH combo of Floyd/Rocco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'd just like to see some balance in this line-up. A couple of line drive hitters. And a true lead-off hitter. I think there won't be too many changes, though. Too many guys with big money/declining play/NTCs to think you can get stuff done. Hope KW proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Trading Nick Swisher right now is like trading a decent steak that you've already eaten and s*** out. Someone might give you a little bit to use it as fertilizer, but we're the only ones with attachment to it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This season doesnt sit well with me. Sure, I was not expecting a division title, but where do you go from here? Face it, the window is closing, and this team is just older and slower, and it doesn't help that the farm system is bad. It does work in our favor that the Tigers are old. I don't think the Twins are still any damn good. I think the Royals are the team to look out for, and I think the Indians will win 90 next year. This team will need a lot of work to compete in 2009. Remember people, it's not about division titles, it's about world series titles. I believe this team is a long way away from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 07:56 PM) I'd have no problem keeping him as a DH. I'm not sure what our options really are there. I don't see many takers for him in the trade market, and I don't know if he reached the AB goal to get his option picked up for 09. He did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 09:05 PM) Remember people, it's not about division titles, it's about world series titles. I believe this team is a long way away from that. Teams have a lot of goals. Sure, one of them is a World Series title, but how many teams win that every year? Winning the division is huge, especially in a year when it was supposedly over before the season even started. Yes, the team is old and getting older. That sucks, sure, and it needs to be fixed. However, don't try to discredit division titles as they mean a lot for a fan base. You shouldn't take making the playoffs for granted. Hell, do you think Brewers fans are up in arms about not winning the World Series? I'd be willing to bet that they're upset, but at the same time they're ecstatic they made the playoffs for the first time in ages (this is based off of my conversations about this years playoffs with a few close friends that are Brewers fans) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) The Brewers didn't win a World Series 3 years ago. That reason alone should make anything less than a title unacceptable. Yes, we won the division. Great. Will get to hang a al central division banner next year. But the goal is always to win your last game in October. Anything less is a failure. Edited October 7, 2008 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 07:36 PM) Dye at DH I agree with, but I think CQ's natural position is RF, move swish permanently to left Honestly, how bad is Alexei at CF? The only downside I can think of is we'd be lacking in two infield spots Dye isn't moving anywhere. He is staying at his natural position. It would be critical if he were to be in the dugout about 75% of game time. Yes, he'll be 35 come '09, but he still has a lot left in the tank. One can only imagine what kind of impact there can be to his offense if he is designated hitter for a whole season. JD has been an astonishing player since the day he put that Sox uniform on. Still very underrated in terms of being a contributor to the different ballclubs Kenny has thrown out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 How the heck would Dye moving to DH hinder his offense? Is he more of a mental midget than I know? Dye is simply not a good RF anymore. If you could move somebody there a little quicker/athletic, why wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 The organization loves Konerko, but they love Dye too, and it's always been thought that the next move for Dye would be to 1B, not DH. Depending on who you get more value for, I see one of those two moving next year. Konerko's NTC is dampening a bit, but it's not something that automatically says you do not get moved. These people suggesting Konerko/Dye for Figgins do need to open their eyes and realize that Figgins really isn't a great hitter when he doesn't hit .300 or so. I don't really know how Justin Speier looked this year, but he's always been a damn good reliever (other than this year), and if Anaheim ate most of his contract and then threw in a boom or bust pitching prospect, I might be OK with it, so long as Dotel is traded for value of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Trading Nick Swisher right now is like trading a decent steak that you've already eaten and s*** out. Someone might give you a little bit to use it as fertilizer, but we're the only ones with attachment to it right now. That has to be the Soxtalk line of the year; wow. What creativity. I nominate it for line of the year. If Swish comes back he has a lot to prove. I know he draws walks but you have to hit better than he did. Maybe he'd be better in Year Two with the same team but he certainly was a C this year; he doesn't deserve a B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 A C? I wish you had been giving out my grades in hs@greg. Other than a hot June, Swisher gets a big fat F from me. He was brutal this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 10:38 PM) The Brewers didn't win a World Series 3 years ago. That reason alone should make anything less than a title unacceptable. Yes, we won the division. Great. Will get to hang a al central division banner next year. But the goal is always to win your last game in October. Anything less is a failure. So the White Sox have had 3 successful seasons in the history of their franchise and over 100 failures. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Again, while the ultimate goal for any team is to win the World Series, just because they didn't doesn't make a season a failure. Believe it or not, but before the season teams have a number of goals, ranging from winning their division, scoring x runs, preventing x runs from being scored, etc. You're expecting way too much if you expect any team to win the World Series every year, it's just not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well, 1 title in 90+ years is a lot of failures. Sure, you can't win it EVERY year or even every other year. Doesn't mean you have to settle for anything less. I bet KW isn't sittin' back and saying "Well, we did win a division that took 163 games. It's ok that we got our asses kicked in the first round. It was a great season." This team had a good season. Good in the sense that they improved so much from the disaster that was last year. But losing your last game at home in October can't be considered anything less than an overall failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) How the heck would Dye moving to DH hinder his offense? Is he more of a mental midget than I know? Dye is simply not a good RF anymore. If you could move somebody there a little quicker/athletic, why wouldn't you? Are you looking at the same RF as I am? You know, the one with #23 on his uniform? A .996 FPCT is nothing to be fussing about. He has an above average arm and doesn't misjudge like a Wise would over in LF. Until I see a sudden change in speed or athletism, I say he remains where he has been most comfortable in the last four seasons as a White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Dye had a great year in the field this year. Made some game winning catches, didn't dive for balls out of his reach. It was a real bounce back year, and I am looking forward to seeing if he still has it next year. Obviously his range isn't great, but its more than good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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