Ask Japan about what should, and should not be, options.

 

In a world where in one moment we could kill hundreds of thousands of humans, and destroy ecosystems for hundreds of years, losing our right to Rush Limbaugh and the New York Times, seems rather small.

 

oh PLEASE

 

9/11 was likely the worst tragedy that has ever happened to America by an outside source, considering all civilians. BUT, it was not war. We did not have an invading army in the country fighting a war against us, we did not have a rebellion uprising, we were not even in a military battle against another country.. There were no troop movements to report or any precedent that SCOTUS has historically provided for when suspending the 1st amendment is allowed. The media even tacitly complied with not being to critical of the government in self-censorship.

 

It seems rather HUGE to me, to lose everything the country fought for because of a huge power opportunity came into play for our central government, when no mobile consistent threat was among us. If Japan entered our shores in WWII, I could see complete pre-censorship of media being reasonable, but as it is, a terrorist attack is not a reason to throw out our constitution, the mere allusion that it could seems absolutely, absolutely absurd.

no offense, but they've proposed a large spending package, are working on unfreezing the credit markets, working on reforming health care, trying to bring in Iran and get moving on greener energy...

 

and meanwhile they haven't supported the senate hoping to do truth commissions of the Bush administration or sought to remove executive privilege from karl rove cases.

 

Yet they release documents that people have been asking for for years and the government has nor real reason to keep hidden, and they are not proposing any solutions and 'looking back instead of looking forward'

 

For historical purposes, its important to have actual information out there, not just the memories of the people who lived through it that "just knew what he was doing".

 

I have no issues with any of that, I hope everything they do works when it comes to spending bills or unfreezing credit markets. It's not about hiding the information, I thought I made myself pretty clear with what I was talking about. I'm absolutely fine with the release of this information, my issue is with HOW they're releasing it. They're using a 'trickle' tactic to the media every time something bad happens with the stock market, money markets, credit markets, or when unemployment numbers hit, that's when a story suddenly comes to light about something Bush did in great detail. This isn't my imagination, either, it's what they're doing, and I find it to be business as usual in Washington.

oh PLEASE

 

9/11 was likely the worst tragedy that has ever happened to America by an outside source, considering all civilians. BUT, it was not war. We did not have an invading army in the country fighting a war against us, we did not have a rebellion uprising, we were not even in a military battle against another country.. There were no troop movements to report or any precedent that SCOTUS has historically provided for when suspending the 1st amendment is allowed. The media even tacitly complied with not being to critical of the government in self-censorship.

 

It seems rather HUGE to me, to lose everything the country fought for because of a huge power opportunity came into play for our central government, when no mobile consistent threat was among us. If Japan entered our shores in WWII, I could see complete pre-censorship of media being reasonable, but as it is, a terrorist attack is not a reason to throw out our constitution, the mere allusion that it could seems absolutely, absolutely absurd.

 

And it was not used.

But to say in each and every case it should not be used, seems silly on the scale that we play.

 

It seems that the administration did some advance planning and asked, what are the limits to our response. Later they probably determined what were the appropriate limits, and reached the same conclusion you just did.

 

But I can not rip them for taking step one, which was to know exactly what resources they have available.

I have no issues with any of that, I hope everything they do works when it comes to spending bills or unfreezing credit markets. It's not about hiding the information, I thought I made myself pretty clear with what I was talking about. I'm absolutely fine with the release of this information, my issue is with HOW they're releasing it. They're using a 'trickle' tactic to the media every time something bad happens with the stock market, money markets, credit markets, or when unemployment numbers hit, that's when a story suddenly comes to light about something Bush did in great detail. This isn't my imagination, either, it's what they're doing, and I find it to be business as usual in Washington.

Meh, I'd be able to buy this argument, but who pays this any extra attention besides Olbermann, Maddow, and Huffpo bloggers? It's a one-day story.

Meh, I'd be able to buy this argument, but who pays this any extra attention besides Olbermann, Maddow, and Huffpo bloggers? It's a one-day story.

 

Everyone that watches them or reads anything about these types of trickle stories pays attention. I'd just like to move forward and beyond this, rather than countering bad news with a predictable, "But Bush did...", how about being more constructive and instead of playing typical party politics do something to move beyond that crap. I'm sick of both parties and their BS already.

this is how the doj works... they are seeing which docs they can release...it wasn't just one released, it was 9 I believe.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politic...0,2464157.story

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politic...0,2464157.story

 

The comments section is hilarious/ sad.

Man, I just cannot bring myself to ever read comments anymore. They are just so uninformed, so RUDE, so combative, it is really depressing.

Ask Japan about what should, and should not be, options.

 

In a world where in one moment we could kill hundreds of thousands of humans, and destroy ecosystems for hundreds of years, losing our right to Rush Limbaugh and the New York Times, seems rather small.

 

Speak for yourself.

Speak for yourself.

 

I believe I did.