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2009 AL Cy Young Race

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Tuesday...

Halladay: L #5, 9 innings, 10 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 0 walks, 5 strikeouts, 3 home runs. ERA up to 2.75

 

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Thursday...

Hernandez: ND, 6 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs (3 earned), 6 walks, 7 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 2.84

 

Friday...

Beckett: ND, 7 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 7 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.12

 

Saturday...

Greinke: W #11, 7 innings 7 hits, 3 runs (earned), 2 walks, 5 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERAS up to 2.43

Verlander: L #6, 6 innings, 7 hits, 5 runs (earned), 2 walks, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 3.45

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Sunday...

Halladay: W #12, 8 innings, 9 hits, 3 runs (2 earned), 1 walk, 4 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.73

 

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Wednesday...

Beckett: W #14, 7 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA down to 3.10

Hernandez: ND, 7 innings, 6 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, 10 strikeouts. ERA down to 2.72

 

Thursday...

Verlander: W #13, 8 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 8 strikeouts. ERA down to 3.28

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Friday...

Greinke: ND, 7 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.33

Halladay: W #13, 8 innings, 8 hits, 2 runs (1 earned), 0 walks, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA down to 2.65

 

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Sad that Buehrle had a rough patch where he essentially pitched himself out of the running.

 

Unless he wins every start from here on out and his ERA takes a big plummet, I can't see it happening.

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Tuesday...

Beckett: ND, 5.1 innings, 9 hits, 7 runs (earned), 1 walk, 4 strikeouts, 3 home runs. ERA up to 3.38

Hernandez: ND, 7 innings, 5 hits, 1 run (1 earned), 1 walk, 9 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.66

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Wednesday...

Greinke: L #8, 7 innings, 6 hits, 4 runs (earned), 1 walk, 8 strikeouts, 3 home runs. ERA up to 2.44

Halladay: L #6, 5 innings, 8 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 2 walks, 7 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 2.78

Verlander: L #7, 8 innings, 6 hits, 3 runs (earned), 1 walk, 10 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 3.29

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Sunday...

Beckett: L #5, 8 innings, 9 hits, 8 runs (earned), 0 walks, 5 strikeouts, 5 home runs. ERA up to 3.65

Hernandez: L #5, 6 innings, 9 hits, 6 runs (3 earned), 0 walks, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 2.73

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Monday...

Halladay: L #7, 6 innings, 12 hits, 8 runs (7 earned), 1 walk, 8 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 3.03

Verlander: W #14, 5.2 innings, 10 hits, 4 runs (4 earned), 2 walks, 7 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA up to 3.38

 

Tuesday...

Greinke: W #12, 8 innings, 5 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk, 15 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA down to 2.43

 

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Friday...

Beckett: ND, 5 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs (earned), 5 walks, 9 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.80

Hernandez: W #13, 7 innings, 5 hits, 3 runs (earned), 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 2.77

Sabathia: ND, 7 innings, 8 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk, 10 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.56

 

Sunday...

Greinke: W #13, 9 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.32

Halladay: L #8, 6 innings, 7 hits, 4 runs (earned), 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 3.13

Verlander: W #15, 8 innings, 6 hits, 3 runs (earned), 3 walks, 4 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.38

Unless something crazy happens this last month, I think Greinke should be a lock to win it. He's clearly been the best pitcher in the AL from start to finish. Even when he was 'struggling' in the middle of the season he was still pitching better than the majority of pitchers in baseball. He's got a lot going against him, though. One, he only has 13 wins. It's a shame. He's gotten some of the crappiest run support in baseball, and the defense behind him is well below average. Two, he's not a Yankee or Red Sock. Which means less deserving guys like Sabathia or Beckett could steal the award.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 06:17 AM)
Unless something crazy happens this last month, I think Greinke should be a lock to win it. He's clearly been the best pitcher in the AL from start to finish. Even when he was 'struggling' in the middle of the season he was still pitching better than the majority of pitchers in baseball. He's got a lot going against him, though. One, he only has 13 wins. It's a shame. He's gotten some of the crappiest run support in baseball, and the defense behind him is well below average. Two, he's not a Yankee or Red Sock. Which means less deserving guys like Sabathia or Beckett could steal the award.

 

I completely agree with you on all of that. And it would piss me off so much to see Beckett steal it.

I bet CC steals it.

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Wednesday...

Beckett: ND, 6 innings, 7 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 0 walks, 9 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.87

Hernandez: W #14, 8 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 3 walks, 6 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.65

Sabathia: W #16, 7 innings, 7 hits, 1 run (earned), 1 walk, 9 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.48

 

Friday...

Halladay: W #14, 9 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 walks, 9 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.98

Verlander: W #16, 8 innings, 4 hits, 1 run (earned), 1 walk, 7 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.29

 

Saturday...

Greinke: ND, 8 innings, 8 hits, 1 run (0 earned), 2 walks, 8 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.22

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Highest single season ERA+ in the AL since 2000:

   ERA+ NAME             YEAR  IP   CY Voting

1 291 Pedro Martinez 2000 217 1st

2 210 Pedro Martinez 2003 186 3rd

3 202 Pedro Martinez 2002 199 2nd

4 197 Zack Greinke 2009 198 ---

5 182 Johan Santana 2004 228 1st

6 177 Derek Lowe 2002 219 3rd

7 175 Cliff Lee 2008 223 1st

8 164 Tim Hudson 2003 240 4th

9 163 Felix Hernandez 2009 193 ---

So as of today Zack Greinke has the highest non-Pedro ERA+ this decade. Oh and he's 10th on that list if you stretch the parameters back to integration (1947).

 

Here's how consistently effective both Greinke and Felix have been this year, highest Quality Start % in the AL since 2000:

1  .862%  Pedro Matinez   2000

2 .824% Dan Haren 2007

3 .821% Zack Greinke 2009

4 .821% Felix Hernandez 2009

His final 4 or 5 starts will determine quite a bit but Zack Greinke is having one of the best seasons by a starting pitcher in American League history, it's just a shame that I wouldn't be surprised to see him finish 3rd in the Cy Young voting behind Sabathia and Verlander because he plays for the team with the worst offense in the AL.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 8, 2009 -> 12:24 AM)
Highest single season ERA+ in the AL since 2000:

ERA+ NAME YEAR IP CY Voting

1 291 Pedro Martinez 2000 217 1st

2 210 Pedro Martinez 2003 186 3rd

3 202 Pedro Martinez 2002 199 2nd

4 197 Zack Greinke 2009 198 ---

5 182 Johan Santana 2004 228 1st

6 177 Derek Lowe 2002 219 3rd

7 175 Cliff Lee 2008 223 1st

8 164 Tim Hudson 2003 240 4th

9 163 Felix Hernandez 2009 193 ---

So as of today Zack Greinke has the highest non-Pedro ERA+ this decade. Oh and he's 10th on that list if you stretch the parameters back to integration (1947).

 

Here's how consistently effective both Greinke and Felix have been this year, highest Quality Start % in the AL since 2000:

1 .862% Pedro Matinez 2000

2 .824% Dan Haren 2007

3 .821% Zack Greinke 2009

4 .821% Felix Hernandez 2009

His final 4 or 5 starts will determine quite a bit but Zack Greinke is having one of the best seasons by a starting pitcher in American League history, it's just a shame that I wouldn't be surprised to see him finish 3rd in the Cy Young voting behind Sabathia and Verlander because he plays for the team with the worst offense in the AL.

At this point, it would surprise me (and piss me off) if Grienke didn't get it.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Sep 7, 2009 -> 11:53 PM)
At this point, it would surprise me (and piss me off) if Grienke didn't get it.

 

I personally still say it's his to lose. The only person who should even be considered against him is King Felix, though I'm sure ESPN and others will slob on Sabathia's nuts cause as Kalapse said, his team is winning the division more than likely.

 

I think this will be a repeat of Cliff Lee when his team sucked, but his year was just so dominant that it can't be overlooked.

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I really think that Greinke's going to get screwed out of this thing in favor of Sabathia. I can just see it coming.

If C.C. gets his ERA around 3, he's probably going to win it. Just because he will have around 20 wins and play for the Yankees. Greinke might be hard pressed to win 16-17 games. If he does, I don't see how you don't give him the award.

 

But the thing is, these voters weigh W-L record almost as much as ERA.

 

Bartolo Colon won the award in 2005 with a ERA of 3 and a half. He won it because he went 21-5. Johan's ERA was nearly a run lower and he finished 3rd.

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If I was to vote, I'd definitely vote for Greinke. He's been unbelievable this year, he deserves it so much. It would be a tragic shame if he lost it just because he's not on a winning team. :(

 

Plus... he made me look like a genius when I drafted him in one of my 20-team/25-man roster fantasy baseball leagues in a later round instead of drafting a "premium" pitcher like Linecum or Halladay in an earlier round. :D

Unless Greinke has a couple of 10 ER outings, anyone winning the award other than him at this point is a joke.

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