Although I hope I'm wrong, I don't see Viciedo being more than a combination of Uribe and Beltre.

Although I hope I'm wrong, I don't see Viciedo being more than a combination of Uribe and Beltre.

 

You need to see him hit. He loves to hit it to the opposite field, much more often than pulling the ball. He has the ability to be a major RBI producer.

You need to see him hit. He loves to hit it to the opposite field, much more often than pulling the ball. He has the ability to be a major RBI producer.

 

That's a really good sign...

You need to see him hit. He loves to hit it to the opposite field, much more often than pulling the ball. He has the ability to be a major RBI producer.

 

 

Since you've had the opportunity to see him more than anyone else on here, what would be your best guess at what kind of hitter he'll turn into?

Since you've had the opportunity to see him more than anyone else on here, what would be your best guess at what kind of hitter he'll turn into?

 

Long term peak projection...I'd seriously say .285 to .300 average, 30 to 35 HR, 100 to 120 RBI. He really isn't trying to swing for the fences all the time, which is good for such a young player. He just wants to hit the ball. He's on pace for 10 HR and 72 RBI this year at age 20. As he develops more patience at the plate, his numbers will go up. He has incredible bat speed, so all he needs to work on in the minors is pitch recognition. He'll be deadly once he locks that in. He may always be a slow starter, he's warmed up at the plate along with the weather. I really think Dayan's as good as advertised, his home run numbers don't jump out at you. But, like I said, he isn't swinging for the fences, he hardly pulls at all. He seems to always be trying to hit it to the gaps. He tattoos balls to the right/center gap frequently. In a nutshell, he's got a major league bat.

How does Viciedo react to tailing sliders? I remember him overswinging in spring.

I saw in one of those videos that Balta posted, he has some pretty ridiculous bat speed.

He is Carlos Lee in the making.

How does Viciedo react to tailing sliders? I remember him overswinging in spring.

 

He'll usually bite and miss. That's his big weakness at this point, pitch recognition.

He is Carlos Lee in the making.

 

Carlos Lee would be a good comparison. He just so happened to be a third basemen when he played for the Barons.

I can see .260 35hr 90rbi 50bb

 

 

He'll usually bite and miss. That's his big weakness at this point, pitch recognition.

 

From what you've seen, is this Danks problem also?

He is Carlos Lee in the making.

I like that one. Carlos never really walked a lot, but he also didn't strike out like Dayan. Dayan is a little bigger at the same age. I could def. see the same career path. Does that mean we will trade Dayan for the future spark plug to our next WS team?

From what you've seen, is this Danks problem also?

 

As a lead off hitter, he's supposed to look at a lot of pitches. He hasn't looked foolish at all when he's struck out. I wouldn't be concerned with his K's, they're mostly looking. Patience is not an issue for Danks.

Edited June 13, 200916 yr by JPN366

I like that one. Carlos never really walked a lot, but he also didn't strike out like Dayan. Dayan is a little bigger at the same age. I could def. see the same career path. Does that mean we will trade Dayan for the future spark plug to our next WS team?

 

I'd keep Dayan, he came from a modest background, so he wants to produce, otherwise he's not happy with himself. I also think he could be much more special than Carlos Lee.

In my opinion, the ETA's for the Barons players should be as follows...

 

Tyler Flowers - Now

Brandon Allen - start 2010

C.J. Retherford - middle 2010 or start 2011

Dayan Viciedo - start 2011

John Shelby III - start 2011

Jordan Danks - start 2010

David Cook - NOW NOW NOW

Stefan Gartrell - start 2010 or middle 2010

In my opinion, the ETA's for the Barons players should be as follows...

 

Tyler Flowers - Now

Brandon Allen - start 2010

C.J. Retherford - middle 2010 or start 2011

Dayan Viciedo - start 2011

John Shelby III - start 2011

Jordan Danks - start 2010

David Cook - NOW NOW NOW

Stefan Gartrell - start 2010 or middle 2010

 

By "start 2010," do you mean they should be starting on the big league club in 2010?

By "start 2010," do you mean they should be starting on the big league club in 2010?

 

That they should be gunning for a roster spot at those points.

Viciedo's only limitation is going to be the strikeouts.

That they should be gunning for a roster spot at those points.

 

Gotcha. That's encouraging that so many guys are so close. I really need to get to Birmingham sometime soon this summer! Somehow I've made it to Charlotte which is twice as far but not B-ham!

Viciedo's only limitation is going to be the strikeouts.

 

He's only got 45 K's on the season, which isn't bad in my opinion.

Gotcha. That's encouraging that so many guys are so close. I really need to get to Birmingham sometime soon this summer! Somehow I've made it to Charlotte which is twice as far but not B-ham!

 

Let me know, and I'll get you in for free.

He's only got 45 K's on the season, which isn't bad in my opinion.

 

I can live with some K's in the lineup if the lineup is more balanced in terms of OBP, contact, and power.

 

Let me know, and I'll get you in for free.

 

Will do. Thanks!

In my opinion, the ETA's for the Barons players should be as follows...

 

Tyler Flowers - Now

Brandon Allen - start 2010

C.J. Retherford - middle 2010 or start 2011

Dayan Viciedo - start 2011

John Shelby III - start 2011

Jordan Danks - start 2010

David Cook - NOW NOW NOW

Stefan Gartrell - start 2010 or middle 2010

I know there is a lot of Cook love on this board and he is solid ball player, but I have a hard time believing he is a major league baseball player. He'll be 28 years old in a month and still is in AA. To me, maybe he is a 4th OF in case of injury, but he is not a good enough player to be considered for a major league roster spot for more than a 15 days. He hit in AA last year, but didn't in AAA (65 Ks in 228 ABs last year, too). This year, he is only hitting .247 in AA, that to me, at almost 28 years of age, says not a ML player. Plus, he isn't a good enough defender to be used in CF in the majors. All he is is organizational fodder.

Edited June 13, 200916 yr by maggsmaggs

I know there is a lot of Cook love on this board and he is solid ball player, but I have a hard time believing he is a major league baseball player. He'll be 28 years old in a month and still is in AA. To me, maybe he is a 4th OF in case of injury, but he is not a good enough player to be considered for a major league roster spot for more than a 15 days. He hit in AA last year, but didn't in AAA (65 Ks in 228 ABs last year, too). This year, he is only hitting .247 in AA, that to me, at almost 28 years of age, says not a ML player. Plus, he isn't a good enough defender to be used in CF in the majors. All he is is organizational fodder.

 

I'm not sure Cook would be any worse than Wise. Seems to have better OBP skills and power than Wise. Like you said, he's probably a 4th-5th OFer and suffers since all the Sox starters in the OF are righties except Pods.