July 1, 200916 yr Avery Johnson's been mooted for the Detroit job also. Joe Dumars has suddenly gone from the most lauded GM 2 years ago, to now a GM who's argubly under a lot of pressure. Big off-season for that franchise.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) The fact that they pulled the contract offer last year was a pretty rough sign. On the other hand...their draft this year makes zero sense if they let Gordon walk. I understand that... I want to know what happened in the last 3 weeks that put the writing on the wall? Drafting 2 big men? LMAO
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 08:58 AM) I understand that... I want to know what happened in the last 3 weeks that put the writing on the wall? Drafting 2 big men? LMAO Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports. Gordon and Villanueva, both unrestricted free agents, would be significant strikes on the first full day of NBA free agency. Gordon and Villanueva played one season together at the University of Connecticut, and are good friends. The Pistons have nearly $20 million in salary-cap space and it’s thought that the offers to these two players would come close to expending that money. Gordon, who scored 20 points a game last season, turned down a $54 million Bulls extension as a restricted free agent last summer. Link, 2 hours ago.
July 1, 200916 yr If that were to happen, Paul Millsap's probably headed to the Thunder. And I think that team could actually make the playoffs in the West next season. PG - Westbrook SG - Harden SF - Durant PF - Millsap C - Krstic Bench: Green, Sefolosha, Watson, White, Collison, Mason, Wilkins That's a pretty good lineup with a lot of upside going forward.
July 1, 200916 yr The Thunder should sign Millsap and then trade expiring contracts (Watson/etc.) for Kaman. Kaman/Krstic Millsap/Collison Durant/Green Harden/Thabo Westbrook
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 12:00 PM) Link, 2 hours ago. that still has nothing to do with the writing on the wall for 3 weeks. Just wondering if 101 had inside info.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 12:18 PM) The Thunder should sign Millsap and then trade expiring contracts (Watson/etc.) for Kaman. Kaman/Krstic Millsap/Collison Durant/Green Harden/Thabo Westbrook There is no reason why Jeff green should come off the bench.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 2, 2009 -> 02:28 AM) There is no reason why Jeff green should come off the bench. Well I don't think Millsap is going to sign and not be a starter. And Durant's basically shown he's a much better player for Scotty Brooks as a 3 and not the 2 spot, plus they drafted Harden for the SG spot. Green could be a 6th man of the year if he came off the pine, but then again it could hurt the Thunder in trying to re-sign him long term, so it's an interesting balancing act they have to play here.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (dbaho @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 12:34 PM) Well I don't think Millsap is going to sign and not be a starter. And Durant's basically shown he's a much better player for Scotty Brooks as a 3 and not the 2 spot, plus they drafted Harden for the SG spot. Green could be a 6th man of the year if he came off the pine, but then again it could hurt the Thunder in trying to re-sign him long term, so it's an interesting balancing act they have to play here. I just do not see the point in OKC signing a 4. Jeff Green is still developing and very serviceable.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 2, 2009 -> 02:37 AM) I just do not see the point in OKC signing a 4. Jeff Green is still developing and very serviceable. Well I guess Krstic ain't exactly a banger down low, so they could use another real good player on the boards. And Millsap's a pretty good defensive PF also, much better than Boozer anyways. And they've got to use their cap room now before it gets swallowed up in the Durant and Green extensions.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (dbaho @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 12:41 PM) Well I guess Krstic ain't exactly a banger down low, so they could use another real good player on the boards. And Millsap's a pretty good defensive PF also, much better than Boozer anyways. And they've got to use their cap room now before it gets swallowed up in the Durant and Green extensions. I think Green is too valuable of an asset to come off the bench. I wonder if they would look to deal him. I do like the idea of Millisap signing if Green were to be moved.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 09:27 AM) that still has nothing to do with the writing on the wall for 3 weeks. Just wondering if 101 had inside info. The Bulls are going to try to resign Gordon. The problem is they haven't been able to find a taker on Hinrich or at least not at the value the Bulls want (as they really value Kirk, but want Gordons offense without taking on luxury tax or ruining there cap-room for 2010. Ben Gordon sign and trade with the Blazers is a possibility if Hinrich doesnt' go to the Blazers.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) I just do not see the point in OKC signing a 4. Jeff Green is still developing and very serviceable. They desperately need a big man to help with their defense and rebounding, especially since Krstic is more of an offensive/finesse big. Millsap makes a ton of sense for them. I would imagine they'd go small and start Green and Millsap up front against a lot of teams and only use Millsap/Kristic up front when they play someone with two bigs. I think that'd work pretty well, especially since Durant and Green both have a ton of length and can probably bother most of your finesse bigs and may be able to do even more as they add strength. Edited July 1, 200916 yr by ZoomSlowik
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:24 PM) Sounding like BG is going to be a Piston. Let's see if he can guard or shoot on John Salmons.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:29 PM) Let's see if he can guard No. QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:29 PM) or shoot on John Salmons. Yes. Same old Ben, different jersey... no doubt about it.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 01:24 PM) Sounding like BG is going to be a Piston. Heard something new over the past hour?
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:32 PM) No. Yes. Same old Ben, different jersey... no doubt about it. So I'm guessing the Pistons will trade Rip away and have Gordon there at full-time along with Stuckey at the point?
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:33 PM) So I'm guessing the Pistons will trade Rip away and have Gordon there at full-time along with Stuckey at the point? That is a small back-court. Rip COULD play the 3.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:29 PM) Let's see if he can guard or shoot on John Salmons. Salmons isn't close to a top 10 SG in the league. I'm pretty sure Ben would not worry about him. And guys, if you thought Ben's 15FGA a game were bad(I don't know how you would), wait until you see Salmons realize he is the best shooter on the floor.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 01:33 PM) So I'm guessing the Pistons will trade Rip away and have Gordon there at full-time along with Stuckey at the point? He's a good player but how many teams are going to want to pony up the $11 mil a year on his contract the next 3 years?
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 01:35 PM) That is a small back-court. Rip COULD play the 3. Hamilton at the 3, Gordon and Stuckey in the back court...that's just going to be awful on your defense.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Salmons isn't close to a top 10 SG in the league. I'm pretty sure Ben would not worry about him. And guys, if you thought Ben's 15FGA a game were bad(I don't know how you would), wait until you see Salmons realize he is the best shooter on the floor. Ya, Gordon's .455 FG% is way better than Salmons' .472...oh, wait.
July 1, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) That is a small back-court. Rip COULD play the 3. Then what happens to Prince? Does he play the 4...? He would get his ass kicked.
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