Cowley has no credibility when it comes to rumors.

 

This is true. Neither does Octavio Dotel...

 

I just like the idea of adding a Cliff Lee.

Those are some awesome rumors, but don't seem to hold much water. Dan Haren would be f***ing sweet.

Wow, Kenny really believes we have a chance this year as he is putting his cards on the table all over the place.

Cowley mentions Floyd being traded in nearly every deal he talks about.

Jason Stark: Phils will not meet Jays demands for Halladay

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4355464

Twins are looking at Orlando Cabrera, with all that happened last year, he would probably become the ultimate Sox killer.

Until this year, I don't see how Haren has ever had ace-type production. Someone enlighten me.

Until this year, I don't see how Haren has ever had ace-type production. Someone enlighten me.

Top ERA+ in '07 & '08 w/ 400+ IP:

1.) 152 CC Sabathia

2.) 148 Brandon Webb

3.) 146 Johan Santana

4.) 139 Cole Hamels

5.) 137 Han Haren

6.) 135 Roy Halladay
 

Top WHIP in '07 & '08 w/ 400+ IP:

1.) 1.10 Cole Hamels

2.) 1.11 Johan Santana

3.) 1.13 CC Sabathia

3.) 1.13 James Shields

5.) 1.14 Roy Halladay

6.) 1.17 Dan Haren
 

Top K/BB in '07 & '08 w/ 400+ IP:

1.) 4.79 CC Sabathia

2.) 4.53 James Shields

3.) 4.19 Dan Haren

4.) 3.97 CC Sabathia

5.) 3.89 Cole Hamels

6.) 3.83 Johan Santana
 

Top ERA+ from '07 to date w/ 500+ IP:

1.) 150 Dan Haren

2.) 147 Tim Lincecum

3.) 144 Johan Santana

4.) 143 CC Sabathia

5.) 141 Roy Halladay

6.) 131 Josh Beckett
 

Top WHIP from '07 to date w/ 500+ IP:

1.) 1.09 Dan Haren

2.) 1.12 Roy Halladay

3.) 1.14 CC Sabathia

3.) 1.14 Johan Santana

5.) 1.15 Cole Hamels

6.) 1.16 Josh Beckett
 

Top K/BB from '07 to date w/ 500+ IP:

1.) 4.73 Dan Haren

2.) 4.39 Josh Beckett

3.) 4.37 Roy Halladay

4.) 4.16 James Shields

5.) 4.11 CC Sabathia

6.) 4.08 Javier Vazquez

I'd say that's some elite company. Did I mention he's currently 28 years old?

 

Bonus Content (lets go with a 4.5 year span):

Top ERA+ from '05 to date w/ 900+ IP:

1.) 150 Johan Santana

2.) 146 Roy Halladay

3.) 141 Brandon Webb

4.) 134 Roy Oswalt

4.) 134 CC Sabathia

6.) 131 Dan Haren
 

Top WHIP from '05 to date w/ 900+ IP:

1.) 1.07 Johan Santana

2.) 1.09 Roy Halladay

3.) 1.14 Dan Haren

4.) 1.17 CC Sabathia

5.) 1.20 Brandon Webb

6.) 1.21 Roy Oswalt
 

Top K/BB from '05 to date w/ 900+ IP:

1.) 4.45 Roy Halladay

2.) 4.19 Johan Santana

3.) 4.14 Dan Haren

4.) 3.91 Javier Vazquez

5.) 3.69 CC Sabathia

6.) 3.60 Aaron Harang

Awesome post. Danny Haren is excellent and if we can acquire him he'll be worth every penny considering that we should never be able to get him for pieces we'd be willing to forfeit.

That's why the DBacks gave up 6 prospects to get him. He just may be a top 3 pitcher in the major leagues, and to acquire him would pretty much take out your future core. That's why the DBacks traded for him - they felt they had their future set - and then signed him to a very affordable extension. It burnt out on them.

 

Their GM has said they are not looking to deal him without a similar package as to what they gave up. That would mean goodbye to Flowers, Danks, Hudson, Viciedo, Carter, and Upchurch, and that's just me figuring out names without including Alexei or Beckham, two players I imagine the Sox won't trade. I'd make the deal without a second thought, but I'm not apart of the White Sox organization.

 

 

The Red Sox are still pursuing Victor Martinez and offered a package of Justin Masterson, Michael Bowden and an outfield prospect.

The Indians turned it down as they are still adamant they want Clay Buchholz. Still, the fact that the Sox were willing to deal Masterson, Bowden and another prospect suggests that a trade may not be far off if the Sox are willing to upgrade the third piece.

 

per Rotoworld, of course

 

 

So would you rather have Victor Martinez in the division, or have Michael Bowden in it? I know you locals want him away from the Indians, I just know it.

 

would suck with Granderson and Bowden in the division. Next thing you know, Jeff Jordan'll get signed by the Twins (get it, lol, his dad, lol)

Poreda, Richard, Torres, Anderson, Fields, Dotel for Haren?

Poreda, Richard, Torres, Anderson, Fields, Dotel for Haren?

 

apparently your XBox is working. I see 1 good piece, 1 valueable pieces, 3 throw-ins, and salary.

Edited July 26, 200916 yr by witesoxfan

apparently your XBox is working. I see 1 good piece, 1 valueable pieces, 3 throw-ins, and salary.

I wish.

 

That's just in the video game in my brain.

Pretty quite trade market in the last couple of days.

Pretty quite trade market in the last couple of days.

Matt Holliday moving doesn't do it for you?

Matt Holliday moving doesn't do it for you?

For some reason I thought that happened on Friday.

Saw the Reds are officially "sellers".

 

I'm not sure the interest in Harang as he has not been the same pitcher as he once was. Someone on here I believe pointed out Baker through him on like 2 days rest and cited that as the plank he dove off.

 

I'm curious at what it would cost to get a veteran arm like Cordero.

 

He has a big contract so I can't really see us being players unless Jocketty picks up about half of whats owed next season and they take a hit on what they want in relationship to the prospects.

 

He is owed about 28-30 million through 2011. With a 12 million option/1mil buyout in 2012. If Walt took about 10-15 mill of it, would it be worth dealing a Fields + something for him? Would they even take it?

 

Personally - unless Jenks is on his way out then I don't know if its smart to be spending 6-10 mill a year on a setup man but if Jenks is bait potentially then I'd be all for it.

 

Other guys available - Arroyo, Bailey needs a COS, Weathers, Rhodes, and I'd give a good portion of my left _______ for Yonder Alonso. I know he isn't available but I'm just stating that I'd like to get him especially with Votto beasting in his way.

Edited July 27, 200916 yr by Pumpkin Escobar

Everyone here knows how i feel about Homer Bailey, so i won't gush. If we could get him and Cody Ross, i'd really like our trade deadline.

Man is it quiet on the trade rumor front. The supposed Halladay deadline is tomorrow. What is KW up to?

I read Hermida for Arroyo..Then again I should not be reading.

Joe Mauer isn't too happy about the Twins not doing much.

 

Apparently, Smith doesn't even want to give up some prospects and spend a million on Orlando Cabrera.

 

But then again, who would?

Joe Mauer isn't too happy about the Twins not doing much.

 

Apparently, Smith doesn't even want to give up some prospects and spend a million on Orlando Cabrera.

 

But then again, who would?

 

Cabrera would be a big upgrade for them, and it is his time of year. Plus you know he would love to stick it to the Sox.

Cabrera would be a big upgrade for them, and it is his time of year. Plus you know he would love to stick it to the Sox.

 

Let's just hope this trade doesn't go down during this series.

Cowley says KW told Gavin to ignore the trade talks, that there’s nothing to them. Gavin, naturally, had no idea that anything was going on.

Cowley says KW told Gavin to ignore the trade talks, that there’s nothing to them. Gavin, naturally, had no idea that anything was going on.

Which means he will be moved soon.....