December 3, 200916 yr Reports are the Chisox might be interested in picking Pagan up from the Mets and have him play CF. Thought on this possible move?
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:24 PM) Reports are the Chisox might be interested in picking Pagan up from the Mets and have him play CF. Thought on this possible move? Angel Pagan as a starting CF? Hell to the no!
December 3, 200916 yr Other than the fact that his name is Angel Pagan, which is hilarious if you think about it for a second... I don't like it.
December 3, 200916 yr Looks like he had some fairly impressive #s playing part-time last year. Impressive for what he's been in the past at least Maybe due to lack of sample size he's someone who can be had affordably
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:37 PM) Other than the fact that his name is Angel Pagan, which is hilarious if you think about it for a second... I don't like it. My wife works with a dude named Jesus Pagan.
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) Why do we appear to be so against the idea of playing Rios in CF? I don't think anyone is against it, per se. It's more that the Sox need a leadoff hitter, and that more than likely will be from the CF position, more than RF. If they get a LF leadoff hitter, then Rios will be in CF and Quentin will move to RF.
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:40 PM) Looks like he had some fairly impressive #s playing part-time last year. Impressive for what he's been in the past at least Maybe due to lack of sample size he's someone who can be had affordably He's a backup. He wouldn't have played nearly as much as he did how Beltran not gotten hurt.
December 3, 200916 yr Doesn't it seem like Rios playing center should be a higher priority than acquiring a leadoff hitter? I think we should acquire a RF or LF more so than a leadoff hitter.
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) Doesn't it seem like Rios playing center should be a higher priority than acquiring a leadoff hitter? I think we should acquire a RF or LF more so than a leadoff hitter. The Sox don't have a leadoff hitter right now. Unless you want Alejandro De Aza to do it.
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:59 PM) The Sox don't have a leadoff hitter right now. Unless you want Alejandro De Aza to do it. What I'm asking you is why a leadoff hitter is more important than the upgrade of Rios playing center field over that leadoff hitter (whomever it was).
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) He's a backup. He wouldn't have played nearly as much as he did how Beltran not gotten hurt. Yeah but he's a backup to a 100 million dollar ball player, right? I've looked at his numbers... he didn't do that bad as a back up. Maybe he just needs a starting job to prove how good he can be. He could have a break out season on the southside. Edited December 3, 200916 yr by Chet Kincaid
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:09 PM) What I'm asking you is why a leadoff hitter is more important than the upgrade of Rios playing center field over that leadoff hitter (whomever it was). After the Nick Swisher experience I am guessing the Sox don't want to have another hitter ruined by trying to fit them into a square hole at the leadoff spot.
December 3, 200916 yr For the Sox to be really pursuing this, things must be at a total standstill with Pods' people. If the price is right this could be a good idea. You can go after a real DH then.....and keep Beckham as the fallback plan for leadoff hitter. Pagan versus righties...over the last three seasons .308/.364/.456 Edited December 3, 200916 yr by Princess Dye
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) For the Sox to be really pursuing this, things must be at a total standstill with Pods' people. If the price is right this could be a good idea. You can go after a real DH then.....and keep Beckham as the fallback plan for leadoff hitter. forget pods and his awful defense and baserunning. i think crisp is a way better option than pagan or no?
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) Yeah but he's a backup to a million dollar ball player, right? I've looked at his numbers... he didn't do that bad as a back up. Maybe he just needs a starting job to prove how good he can be. He could have a break out season on the southside. His line (BA/OBP/SLG) from 2006-2008: .259/.316/.406. He had a decent year last year (aided by a really high BABIP of .352). But I wouldn't count on him repeating it. And the Sox are aiming really low if they are. Edited December 3, 200916 yr by Jordan4life
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) For the Sox to be really pursuing this, things must be at a total standstill with Pods' people. If the price is right this could be a good idea. You can go after a real DH then.....and keep Beckham as the fallback plan for leadoff hitter. Pagan versus righties...over the last three seasons .308/.364/.456 As I said, he'd be a quality backup. If Angel Pagan is your starting CF you're in trouble.
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 05:11 PM) After the Nick Swisher experience I am guessing the Sox don't want to have another hitter ruined by trying to fit them into a square hole at the leadoff spot. But is the leadoff spot more important than the defensive upgrade of Rios in CF over whomever you sign to be your leadoff hitter (especially considering who is available)?
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:58 PM) Link? This is all I can find http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594 buried, and barely even a rumor regarding the Sox A number of clubs have shown interest in Mets outfielder Angel Pagan, major league sources said Wednesday, but it doesn't appear that he's close to being dealt. The Royals have inquired about Pagan, 28, but one source insisted that the Mets don't have interest in Kansas City outfielder Jose Guillen. Pagan, who is arbitration-eligible, probably has greater value to teams searching for an everyday center fielder than he would in New York. He batted .306 in a career-high 88 games this year, but he wouldn't see as much playing time with the Mets in 2010 if Carlos Beltran stays healthy. Pagan should earn a reasonable salary next year, so the Mets aren't obligated to move him. Milwaukee is looking for a center fielder, but would prefer someone who excels against left-handed pitching. Pagan fares better against right-handers, as is the case with many switch hitters. The Cubs, Rangers and White Sox are also looking for a center fielder, but it's not known if any are planning a serious pursuit of Pagan. He played for the Cubs in 2006 and 2007.
December 3, 200916 yr Author QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:46 PM) Why do we appear to be so against the idea of playing Rios in CF? I am not against it I am just quoting a source claiming the Sox might be interested in Pagan for CF. It would seem he could come fairly inexpensive and maybe they see something posiitve in him. I do think it's quite a jump from a PT of'er with the Mets to the Sox starting CF'er though
December 3, 200916 yr QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:47 PM) I am not against it I am just quoting a source claiming the Sox might be interested in Pagan for CF. It would seem he could come fairly inexpensive and maybe they see something posiitve in him. I do think it's quite a jump from a PT of'er with the Mets to the Sox starting CF'er though What source? And in this scenario what are the Sox trading for this 29 year old should be utility OF? Talk about buying high and aiming low.
December 3, 200916 yr Author QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:46 PM) This is all I can find http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594 buried, and barely even a rumor regarding the Sox Not quite what I read but similar. It mentioned the Sox interest and teams may look at him as a CF'er. It is typical baseball hot stove stuff. Just gets your blood flowing a bit and wishing it were spring training already
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