December 22, 200916 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:49 PM) I think he just pitched a season in the NL, and thats that. He has been traded 5 times in 12 seasons, why is that? And good luck being a flyball pitcher in probably the biggest launching pad in baseball. He's actually fairly GB/FB neutral. And I don't think you can look at the NL switch as the only reason his ERA dropped to 2.87. He's an excellent pitcher.
December 22, 200916 yr QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 05:15 PM) He's actually fairly GB/FB neutral. And I don't think you can look at the NL switch as the only reason his ERA dropped to 2.87. He's an excellent pitcher. Whats the other reason of his improvement then? He learned a new pitch to add to his other 15? He has a 4.52 ERA in the AL, and I fully expect him to be around that for the Yanks. His GB/FB is .70 for those who wanted to know, which is below league avg. I like taking a look at Buehrle's stats compared to Javy to really see what kind of a pitcher he is. Mark is better in everything but K's, and that says alot. Edited December 22, 200916 yr by RockRaines
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) Whats the other reason of his improvement then? He learned a new pitch to add to his other 15? He has a 4.52 ERA in the AL, and I fully expect him to be around that for the Yanks. His GB/FB is .70 for those who wanted to know, which is below league avg. I like taking a look at Buehrle's stats compared to Javy to really see what kind of a pitcher he is. Mark is better in everything but K's, and that says alot. I think mental toughness might be one Buehrle has a huge advantage in.
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) Whats the other reason of his improvement then? He learned a new pitch to add to his other 15? He has a 4.52 ERA in the AL, and I fully expect him to be around that for the Yanks. His GB/FB is .70 for those who wanted to know, which is below league avg. I like taking a look at Buehrle's stats compared to Javy to really see what kind of a pitcher he is. Mark is better in everything but K's, and that says alot. Fangraphs has Javy's GB/FB at 1.20 last season and .98 career.
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 06:12 AM) Meh, he'll be beneficial to them getting the best record by August, then the Yankees can either just sit him down in Sept and bullpen him in October, or pitch him till the end of the season as there is less pressure for them to win if they clinch the division that early. See it makes sense. Thats true to and if he doesn't do well the yankees will just trade for another pitcher . Vasques is the yankees Garcia or Dolisi no big deal
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 06:33 AM) Exactly, I wouldn't pay my 4th or 5th starters $11.5 million combined, let alone for one of them. well your not the Yankees 11mil for them is 3mil for the sox
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (sircaffey @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 09:32 PM) Fangraphs has Javy's GB/FB at 1.20 last season and .98 career. Pretty much no sites coincide with one another in regards to gb/fb ratio... even if it is off by the slightest bit, some vary greatly on the other hand.
December 23, 200916 yr What's interesting about this is that the Yankees are bringing him back under the same conditions the Sox brought him in. Following a World Series with an apparently dominating rotation where he can eat innings at the back of the rotation and not be relied on in big games. I'm interested to see how this goes.
December 23, 200916 yr Hopefully we can face him in the playoffs. It'd be nice to have an automatic win. And I can't believe anyone would call him a "great" or "excellent" pitcher, get out of here with that non sense.
December 23, 200916 yr Javy is a very valuable pitcher for the regular season because he starts 30+ games a year and pitches over 200 innings a year. He had arguably his career best year last year, but using ERA+, which is a quick crude stat but can be a good guide, his 3 out of 4 years in the AL he was around average or below and one year he was very good with a 126. As a 4th or 5th starter he is great, and the NYY can afford to pay a 4th or 5th starter that kind of money, so it's a very good pickup for them.
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 08:52 AM) Hopefully we can face him in the playoffs. It'd be nice to have an automatic win. And I can't believe anyone would call him a "great" or "excellent" pitcher, get out of here with that non sense. great point. to me he is a very good pitcher, but I could never describe him as great or excellent. His overall performance in the AL are what I use to support that.
December 23, 200916 yr QUOTE (1977 sox fan @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:34 PM) well your not the Yankees 11mil for them is 3mil for the sox They still have to take money into account. Edited December 23, 200916 yr by chw42
December 24, 200916 yr It is nice to see that Javy might not win when it matters, but he can still generate the same arguments as always...
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