Pierre DH

Vizquel 3B

Rios CF

Konerko 1B

Quentin RF

Pierzynski C

Jones LF

Ramirez SS

Beckham 2B

 

Buehrle P

Dayan still getting no love. Not even against the lowly Royals.

This would have been a good pitcher to have Viciedo face. We need someone other than our 3-4-5 to start driving the ball.

Unfortunately Viciedo is a lost cause I think.

Jones in the starting lineup, that's new. He needs some AB's if he is going to heat up again.

 

Please send Dayan back down KW, this isn't a mid level older prospect, it's a young guy who the org expects a lot out of, if Ozzie is not going to start him, get him 3-5 ABs every game in AAA

Please send Dayan back down KW, this isn't a mid level older prospect, it's a young guy who the org expects a lot out of, if Ozzie is not going to start him, get him 3-5 ABs every game in AAA

I understand the concern here, but Dayan will be fine. He's still taking batting practice, hitting in the cage, and probably learning some valuable things during his stay with the big league club. It's not like his muscles are going to atrophy from lack of use.

 

As long as they don't keep him up for more than another few weeks, he'll be just fine IMO.

I'm fine with him being here until Teahen is back, but then he needs to go back down unless he's playing 4 or 5 times a week.

Let's hope Mark pitches like he always does against KC, he's owned them in his career.

Its not my game thread

Its not my game thread

 

Well, its been a while but we lost.. It's gonna be tough to match you.

I'm fine with him being here until Teahen is back, but then he needs to go back down unless he's playing 4 or 5 times a week.

I don't think there is going to be any room for him once Teahen comes back...

Beckham is hitting .200 and showing no signs of life. The argument previously was that you can't move to viciedo/vizquel full-time because you're not sure how well vizquel would hold up, yet he's still playing everyday. What is the detriment of seeing if Viciedo is capable of hitting over .200 at this point, whether it's at DH or 3b? We're not looking to replace someone at 2nd or DH that's hitting .250 and there's downside if Viciedo hits .200. Everyone we're trotting out there is at the Mendoza line, there is no downside!!!! Ok, hitting at least, there is downside in the field.

 

I don't think there is going to be any room for him once Teahen comes back...

 

Lillibridge is still here remember

Beckham is hitting .200 and showing no signs of life. The argument previously was that you can't move to viciedo/vizquel full-time because you're not sure how well vizquel would hold up, yet he's still playing everyday. What is the detriment of seeing if Viciedo is capable of hitting over .200 at this point, whether it's at DH or 3b? We're not looking to replace someone at 2nd or DH that's hitting .250 and there's downside if Viciedo hits .200. Everyone we're trotting out there is at the Mendoza line, there is no downside!!!! Ok, hitting at least, there is downside in the field.

 

Beckham has hit the ball harder over the past few days than he's had all season.

 

Not exactly sure what other signs of life can we expect?

Beckham has hit the ball harder over the past few days than he's had all season.

 

Not exactly sure what other signs of life can we expect?

 

He's had a few 3 game hit streaks where he's shown similar "life" yet still looks uncomfortable and overmatched. He did do something new yesterday in managing to make 2 outs with one K. Even at DH, Ozzie seems to believe there's some downside to replacing a .200 hitter. There simply isn't, Dayan isn't going to go in there and hit .150 over significant ABs.

Beckham is hitting .200 and showing no signs of life. The argument previously was that you can't move to viciedo/vizquel full-time because you're not sure how well vizquel would hold up, yet he's still playing everyday. What is the detriment of seeing if Viciedo is capable of hitting over .200 at this point, whether it's at DH or 3b? We're not looking to replace someone at 2nd or DH that's hitting .250 and there's downside if Viciedo hits .200. Everyone we're trotting out there is at the Mendoza line, there is no downside!!!! Ok, hitting at least, there is downside in the field.

And the fact that he's just not a very good baseball player, he has plenty of value as a part time player to spell your starters and give you some D but he's not a good enough hitter to be an everyday player especially in a lineup as offensively challenged as ours. It just so happens that he hit a hot streak just as our starting 3B went down so for about a month or so it was nice to have him in the lineup but he's going to cool off big time some time soon and he'll have to be relegated back to bench duty.

And the fact that he's just not a very good baseball player, he has plenty of value as a part time player to spell your starters and give you some D but he's not a good enough hitter to be an everyday player especially in a lineup as offensively challenged as ours. It just so happens that he hit a hot streak just as our starting 3B went down so for about a month or so it was nice to have him in the lineup but he's going to cool off big time some time soon and he'll have to be relegated back to bench duty.

 

 

Move him to 2nd in the meantime to get Dayan starts at 3rd or find ABs at DH for him. There's a guy that was brought up, in Kenny's eyes I'm sure, to get regular ABs in 2 spots, as the downside risk is minimal when the general production is already significantly under replacement value. Don't you think Kenny thought it was an ideal spot to get 50-60 ABs waiting on Teahan and getting a feel for what he's going to need if he's a buyer or what he's got as a seller?

MUST win game here.

 

Gotta show that they can persevere and step it up after the streak ended

Move him to 2nd in the meantime to get Dayan starts at 3rd or find ABs at DH for him. There's a guy that was brought up, in Kenny's eyes I'm sure, to get regular ABs in 2 spots, as the downside risk is minimal when the general production is already significantly under replacement value. Don't you think Kenny thought it was an ideal spot to get 50-60 ABs waiting on Teahan and getting a feel for what he's going to need if he's a buyer or what he's got as a seller?

No not really. Given that Ozzie and KW had a discussion about Dayan's playing time when he was called up and he's gotten all of 9 PA in 9 team games since then I'd say he was recalled just to give him a taste of the big league lifestyle, let him work with major league instructors and get a close look at him in on field drills and batting practice.

 

Their #1 priority right now is to get Gordon back on track and given that he's still playing everyday for the big league club they obvious feel the best way to get him through this is to just let him play, not sit on the bench or take a trip to Charlotte. His swing has looked much better of late given just how brutal it was as recently as a week ago but who knows if that actually means anything.

I don't want to derail the thread, it's just that our offensive is in the sorry state because 2 spots in the lineup every night are filled with gordon/kotsay/jones. If you're dedicated to gordon then please sit kotsay/jones when they're not spelling someone in the field and let vizquel rest 1-2 a week and come in as an LIDR.

Go get em MB and crew

He's had a few 3 game hit streaks where he's shown similar "life" yet still looks uncomfortable and overmatched. He did do something new yesterday in managing to make 2 outs with one K. Even at DH, Ozzie seems to believe there's some downside to replacing a .200 hitter. There simply isn't, Dayan isn't going to go in there and hit .150 over significant ABs.

 

that was a bulls*** call, he didnt impede Soto's throw. Soto barely touched him on the followthrough

This Lerew guy has a 91 MPH fastball, with a slider and change-up.

 

Through two starts, his fastball has been clobbered for a run value of -2.9. Although he has used his slider and change-up effectively, posting slightly above average pitch values for those two pitches.

 

He tends to give up a decent amount of home runs.

Time to prove we can beat American League teams we should beat as well as we did the NL ones we should beat... lez go Sox.