July 18, 201015 yr Wishful thinking, I know, but Domonic Brown is major league ready, and Werth is a FA after this season. Werth would be a legitimate defensive upgrade over Quentin, would could DH, filling that void. I'm assuming that Werth would get type A comp. Is there any chance that we have the bullets to get him?
July 18, 201015 yr The real Jayson Worth is rounding to form this season. no thanks Edited July 18, 201015 yr by AWhiteSoxinNJ
July 18, 201015 yr Author QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 01:55 PM) Werth is going to get a huge contract this offseason. No thanks! I'd just want him as a rental.
July 18, 201015 yr Hmph, I've gotten the impression that he hasn't been that good in 2010 but his numbers don't agree with that at all.
July 18, 201015 yr The Phillies are shopping him. He's a good defender, but he wouldn't be much of an upgrade offensively, especially for a rental.
July 18, 201015 yr Wait, Werth wouldn't be an offensive upgrade from Jones and Kotsay? Why is it that the trade deadline always brings the most unrealistic views of Sox players? Edited July 18, 201015 yr by fathom
July 18, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 12:56 PM) Hmph, I've gotten the impression that he hasn't been that good in 2010 but his numbers don't agree with that at all. He's been very inconsistent, kind of like the Phillies as a whole.
July 18, 201015 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 01:01 PM) Wait, Werth wouldn't be an offensive upgrade from Jones and Kotsay? Why is it that the trade deadline always brings the most realistic views of Sox players? Just ignore the ~.380 wOBA he's put up every year since 2007, he's struggled in the month of July therefore he is bad.
July 18, 201015 yr QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 01:02 PM) He's been very inconsistent, kind of like the Phillies as a whole. He's put up a .380+ wOBA/.880 OPS every month this season outside of July.
July 18, 201015 yr Author QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 01:59 PM) The Phillies are shopping him. He's a good defender, but he wouldn't be much of an upgrade offensively, especially for a rental. The offensive upgrade would be over Kotsay/Jones, and that would be incredible.
July 18, 201015 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 02:05 PM) He's put up a .380+ wOBA/.880 OPS every month this season outside of July. So, you're saying, wait until the exact deadline before dealing for him.
July 18, 201015 yr Anyone know what the Phillies have been asking for him? Edit: They're looking for starting pitching, someone to help their rotation this year. Edited July 18, 201015 yr by PlunketChris
July 18, 201015 yr QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 02:13 PM) Anyone know what the Phillies have been asking for him? The talk out there has been that the Phils would obviously rather move Ibanez than Werth (you know...that's not the worst idea I've ever heard either). Anyway, Major League starting pitching under the Phils control after 2010 and Right handed power to replace Werth. I don't know if Hudson + Flowers would do it in their mind...but those guys actually fill those 2 roles. Of course, Carlos Ruiz just signed a 3 year deal as their catcher.
July 19, 201015 yr I haven't heard or seen anything on this, but The Phillies might be one of few teams looking to solidify their closer role or atleast secure a back up plan. Lidge can't be depended on and when it wasn't Lidge, they were parading Jose Contreras out there. Putz or Jenks might be an appealing piece to them if they're made available.
July 26, 201015 yr QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 01:43 PM) FWIW Werth not in the line-up today for Philly Fixed.
July 26, 201015 yr Jayson Stark Bunch of rumors flying that #Phillies were about to trade Jayson Werth to #Padres. Source: "Not true...had discussions...not close" #trades 6 minutes ago via web
July 27, 201015 yr Werth would be a great addition to the squad. 1.) He'd give us better defense in RF and move Quentin to DH. 2.) He would take care of the LH Power Role, since he's hitting righties (.901 OPS) better than lefties (.836) 3.) He'd command much less than Dunn via trade. I read a report somewhere that stated the Phillies were wanting to dump Werth somewhere so they could use the savings/prospects to attain Oswalt. So I don't think they necessarily demand Hudson. I think a package of Santos, Marquez, and Gilmore would be fair for both teams. I say yes to Werth.
July 27, 201015 yr QUOTE (pktmotion @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 12:00 AM) Werth would be a great addition to the squad. 1.) He'd give us better defense in RF and move Quentin to DH. 2.) He would take care of the LH Power Role, since he's hitting righties (.901 OPS) better than lefties (.836) 3.) He'd command much less than Dunn via trade. I read a report somewhere that stated the Phillies were wanting to dump Werth somewhere so they could use the savings/prospects to attain Oswalt. So I don't think they necessarily demand Hudson. I think a package of Santos, Marquez, and Gilmore would be fair for both teams. I say yes to Werth. Now say that again when you're sober. It won't make as much sense. Trust me.
July 27, 201015 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 06:21 AM) Now say that again when you're sober. It won't make as much sense. Trust me. Just remember that Amaro is a grade A moron and that package might actually be pretty attractive
July 27, 201015 yr QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jul 19, 2010 -> 12:10 PM) I haven't heard or seen anything on this, but The Phillies might be one of few teams looking to solidify their closer role or atleast secure a back up plan. Lidge can't be depended on and when it wasn't Lidge, they were parading Jose Contreras out there. Putz or Jenks might be an appealing piece to them if they're made available. I think Bobby Jenks would be a great addition to the Phils.
July 27, 201015 yr QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:38 AM) Just remember that Amaro is a grade A moron and that package might actually be pretty attractive No, he's really not. He's made some questionable signings (Ibanez, Polanco, and the Howard extension), but I don't know that he's ever made a questionable trade similar to that. I don't think I would have traded Lee away, but he was smart and kept Dominic Brown and he sorta reloaded his minor league system with the Lee trade.
July 27, 201015 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) No, he's really not. He's made some questionable signings (Ibanez, Polanco, and the Howard extension), but I don't know that he's ever made a questionable trade similar to that. I don't think I would have traded Lee away, but he was smart and kept Dominic Brown and he sorta reloaded his minor league system with the Lee trade. I was under the impression that basically all the guys they'd gotten back from Seattle were underperforming, and that Seattle got a much better (Smoak) package back for Lee than they gave up for him. Do you dispute that?
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