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9/8 GT: Sox @ Detroit - 6:05pm CDT - CSN+

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Tell you the truth, I'd almost yank Danks now. No need running his pitch count up. Let him be fresh next start.

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    QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 06:56 PM) No one answered my question about Teahen's 2nd error. This is a pull baseball special it seems. About it being a double play ball? Yes, it was. He made a

  • Leonard Washington
    Leonard Washington

    QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 08:02 PM) Except for the fact that it would be a 1-1 game right now.... And I think there's a decent argument that it might be 1-0. Danks had to throw a lot o

  • Leonard Washington
    Leonard Washington

    I think we're going to hear some interesting post game comments from Ozzie.

Ugh.

 

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:18 PM)
1. Todd Ritchie for Wells/Fogg/Lowe

2. Any Swisher deal

3. Ray Durham/draft picks for Jon Adkins

4. acquiring the wrong Berry/Barry from the Dodgers because KW spelled the name wrong on the list sent to MLB, I think that was the one where we received the unforgettable Onan Masaoka from LA

5. Billy Koch trade, although we got Cotts out of it...Koch REALLY sucked for us, big time, but he was a "fireballer" after Foulke, lol

 

It's not quite over, but did any of them ever cost us a Division title, this late in the season?

bout to be 6-1

 

pitching on short rest?

 

not so good.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:18 PM)
1. Todd Ritchie for Wells/Fogg/Lowe

2. Any Swisher deal

3. Ray Durham/draft picks for Jon Adkins

4. acquiring the wrong Berry/Barry from the Dodgers because KW spelled the name wrong on the list sent to MLB, I think that was the one where we received the unforgettable Onan Masaoka from LA

5. Billy Koch trade, although we got Cotts out of it...Koch REALLY sucked for us, big time, but he was a "fireballer" after Foulke, lol

 

huh?

QUOTE (11and1 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:21 PM)
It's not quite over, but did any of them ever cost us a Division title, this late in the season?

The Sox may have won in 2003 if they had Foulke instead of Koch.

The trade for teahen wasn't bad. Giving him a 3 year deal was ridiculously stupid.

Raburn was totally lost in the shuffle the first half of the season.

 

Now he's become the most dangerous hitter in their line-up after Cabrera...actually much hotter than Miguel the last 4-6 weeks.

 

Boesch has really done a 2nd half fade job, not quite as bad as Chris Shelton but I wouldn't call him a sure thing for 2011.

The least we can do if we go 5.5 back is beat the living snot out of the Twins in those 3 games. We owe them that at least.

 

 

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:21 PM)
bout to be 6-1

 

pitching on short rest?

 

not so good.

 

It would also be only 1-1 if Mark Teahen was not playing too....

teahen still in?

QUOTE (11and1 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:14 PM)
Do it now.

 

Teahen plays, we lose. It never f***ing fails.

Two more years of this loser?

 

KW's Worst. Deal. Ever.

 

Everything changed when Teahen left.

Everything changed when Teahen returned.

 

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:21 PM)
bout to be 6-1

 

pitching on short rest?

 

not so good.

 

 

Pitching on short rest in front of incompetent defense, not good at all.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:22 PM)
huh?

Its true. LA had a Berry and Barry in their system. KW thought he was getting one, but wound up with the other a 31 year old AAA filler. The other never became anything, so really no harm no foul, but I'm sure KW is a little more careful now if there are similar names in a system.

When did Danks become such a mental midget?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 06:22 PM)
huh?

Baldwin was a decent pitcher for the White Sox. He was a prototypical “keeps his team in the game” pitcher, a guy who, while not dominant, does well enough to give his team a good chance of winning the game most times around. He usually stayed roughly around the league average for earned runs allowed. His best season was in 2000, when he won 14 games and lost 7, with an earned run average of 4.65, a little better than league average that season. He made the All Star Team in 2000, as the White Sox made the playoffs.

 

Baldwin was going to be a free agent after the 2001 season, and in 2001, the White Sox had an off year after making the playoffs in 2000. So they decided to trade Baldwin at the trade deadline in 2001 to a team (the Los Angeles Dodgers) who had a better chance of making the playoffs in exchange for a few low level prospects, rather than lose Baldwin as a free agent after the season and get nothing in return for him.

 

The prospects were nothing too notable: Jeff Barry, Gary Majewski and Onan Masaoka. Majewski, actually, was drafted by the White Sox and sent to the Dodgers earlier in 2001, so they were just getting him back.

 

Barry had played in the big leagues for a little bit in the late 90s, mostly for the Rockies…

 

 

 

Here’s the kicker, though.

 

The White Sox did not MEAN to acquire Barry!!!!

 

No, the White Sox meant to acquire young Dodger minor league pitcher Jonathan Berry!!!

 

The White Sox even issues a press release saying it was Berry that they had received, while it was not.

 

White Sox general manager Kenny Williams noted at the time:

 

There was a misunderstanding on reports. "We were looking at a report on the pitcher and we didn’t have one on the guy we got. We’ll honor the deal."

 

Luckily for the White Sox, while Barry never made the major leagues for the White Sox, Berry never made the majors, either.

 

The best player in the deal turned out, most likely, to be Majewski, who the White Sox traded to the (then) Montreal Expos in 2004 along with pitcher Jon Rauch in exchange for Carl Everett, who helped the White Sox win the 2005 World Series.

 

Amusingly enough, Majewski was involved in ANOTHER trade snafu of sorts when he was traded from the Washington Nationals (that’s who the Montreal Expos became) to the Cincinnati Reds in 2006. At the time, Majewski was a 26-year-old reliever having a strong season after following two strong years as a reliever. So the Reds thought they were getting the tough relief pitcher than their bullpen needed.

 

 

It's not quite over, but did any of them ever cost us a Division title, this late in the season?

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They weren't good enough to get us that far in the season for it to really matter,

 

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:23 PM)
Everything changed when Teahen left.

Everything changed when Teahen returned.

 

Exactly. Losing him was the best thing that happened to this team all year.

wtf, bonderman? really?

Well, it's not like our offense has exactly shown up against Cy Bonderman.

 

Harrelson's former favorite crush. At least with our starting rotation already logjammed, KW can't sign him as a FA this winter.

 

 

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 8, 2010 -> 07:24 PM)
Its true. LA had a Berry and Barry in their system. KW thought he was getting one, but wound up with the other a 31 year old AAA filler. The other never became anything, so really no harm no foul, but I'm sure KW is a little more careful now if there are similar names in a system.

 

Good grief, I never heard that story.

So typical of Reinsdorf management personnel on the South and West sides of the city

The Twins are down 1-0 and Thome was a scratch with an ab strain.

good god alex, lay off the pitches you can't handle

That was Teahenesque right there.

our #3 hitter looks LOST

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