October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) Kenny? Cooper? If we are talking about journalists in general, as it appears you did, how does a journalist become enough of an expert to challenge someone on every subject under the sun? Imagine some journalist challenging you about geology. Now imagine the same journalist interviewing another geologist about what you said. Which is better? Which will be more beneficial to the audience? If they're doing a stellar job...both. That would mean they actually know the issue well enough to ask me about it...and that they actually know the people who disagree on whatever subject well enough to ask them for an alternate opinion.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:08 AM) If they're doing a stellar job...both. That would mean they actually know the issue well enough to ask me about it...and that they actually know the people who disagree on whatever subject well enough to ask them for an alternate opinion. And tomorrow they do a story on the economy, then issues from the local firefighters contract the next. It just isn't practical.
October 19, 201114 yr 200 posts and I have yet to figure out WHY KW would need a spy in the clubhouse.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:06 AM) Kenny? Cooper? If we are talking about journalists in general, as it appears you did, how does a journalist become enough of an expert to challenge someone on every subject under the sun? Imagine some journalist challenging you about geology. Now imagine the same journalist interviewing another geologist about what you said. Which is better? Which will be more beneficial to the audience? Bulls***. Cowley isn't doing anything of the sort. He isn't just writing up Ozzie's opinion. He is taking it, and reinforcing it with his own opinions and commentary, while ignoring the hypocrisy of his work, and of his one sided interview.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:15 AM) 200 posts and I have yet to figure out WHY KW would need a spy in the clubhouse. That is what I really want to know as well yet that point never gets mentioned.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) That is what I really want to know as well yet that point never gets mentioned. Because Marty...er Joe said there had to be.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:15 AM) 200 posts and I have yet to figure out WHY KW would need a spy in the clubhouse. Because he never talked to the manager.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:15 AM) Bulls***. Cowley isn't doing anything of the sort. He isn't just writing up Ozzie's opinion. He is taking it, and reinforcing it with his own opinions and commentary, while ignoring the hypocrisy of his work, and of his one sided interview. Balta spoke about what a journalist should do, even my post mentioned "in general".
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 11:12 AM) And tomorrow they do a story on the economy, then issues from the local firefighters contract the next. It just isn't practical. Which is why you have specific reporters assigned to specific beats sometimes. That's why you might have one guy who is a "Science reporter", where he is familiar with some literature and is able to ask the right questions/get the appropriate responses. In this case, you might have specific reporters assigned to say "Cover the sports beat" in a particular city, where that reporter knows both the Manager and the other issues involved. Or if it was a big enough team, you might even have a reporter or two dedicated to covering a specific team for a paper. You might have a reporter for the Sun Times on the White Sox beat, for example. A person like that might well be expected to know the issues regarding the White Sox well enough to ask an informed question or two in reply. Unless Joe Cowley is doing a story on the economy today.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) Because he never talked to the manager. why should he? If he knew guillen had checked out on this season, like guillen said he did, why would Cooper want to deal with the quitter who quit on his team ala sammy sosa
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) Because he never talked to the manager. Because he couldn't do so, without it ending up the papers. Funny how that works.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:33 AM) why should he? If he knew guillen had checked out on this season, like guillen said he did, why would Cooper want to deal with the quitter who quit on his team ala sammy sosa The GM never talked to the manager.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) Because he couldn't do so, without it ending up the papers. Funny how that works. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:38 AM) The GM never talked to the manager.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) Because he couldn't do so, without it ending up the papers. Funny how that works. The GM never talked to the manager was all I wrote. Funny you felt the need to defend him.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) The GM never talked to the manager was all I wrote. Funny you felt the need to defend him. It really is like talking to Joe Cowley. It is completely one side of the story.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) It really is like talking to Joe Cowley. It is completely one side of the story. You're way too defensive of Williams. FWIW, I think he was right to have a spy given the position he was in.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) You're way too defensive of Williams. FWIW, I think he was right to have a spy given the position he was in. You are way to defensive of Ozzie and Cowley. You excuse everything they have done by blaming Williams for something.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:05 AM) ^All of this^ Seriously, why is this even being discussed anymore? It's the board vs. Marty, greg, and occasionally elrockinMT, and they cannot be swayed from their opinion which the rest of the board finds moronic. That's all. Even elrockin isn't really defending Ozzie, he's just generally loyal and positive about the team. The only ones defending Ozzie are marty and greg.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) Even elrockin isn't really defending Ozzie, he's just generally loyal and positive about the team. The only ones defending Ozzie are marty and greg. He's not as blatant, so that's why I used "occasionally" when I referred to him.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) You are way to defensive of Ozzie and Cowley. You excuse everything they have done by blaming Williams for something. Cowley doesn't work for the Sox. You are wrong about me defending Guillen. I've said time and time again that he deserved to be fired.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) Even elrockin isn't really defending Ozzie, he's just generally loyal and positive about the team. The only ones defending Ozzie are marty and greg. Proof that I defend Guillen.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) Cowley doesn't work for the Sox. You are wrong about me defending Guillen. I've said time and time again that he deserved to be fired. Really? Anytime anything Ozzie comes up, you throw Kenny under the bus so as to make him look better. Every single time.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) Proof that I defend Guillen. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) Really? Anytime anything Ozzie comes up, you throw Kenny under the bus so as to make him look better. Every single time.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) Really? Anytime anything Ozzie comes up, you throw Kenny under the bus so as to make him look better. Every single time. You're wrong.
October 19, 201114 yr QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) You're wrong. Don't make me sick Q on you again.
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