December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 09:26 PM) It's kind of odd, being born and raised in Chicago, but I absolutely despise the "city-life" and could never really live downtown in a big city. I have to be near the outdoors so I can fish and/or hunt. Chicago I could probably put up with because it's what I know, but there's not a chance in hell I could go to New York City or Los Angeles or Houston. Houston is only about an hour from some absolutely beautiful areas, both north and south. Going north is national forest of pine, and south is some great beaches on Galveston Island. There is incredible hunting and fishing both ways, and not any further than it would take to get to those types of areas leaving Chicago. If I were to leave this area, that would be my first choice.
December 7, 201114 yr Can't believe how long it took peeps to list San Diego (thank you Steve, Russ)...also, uh, LA anyone? There are like 5 California cities that should be in the top 10. Seattle, Portland, Denver, Austin, Chicago, NY and CALIFORNIA.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) I can't remember the last good thing I heard about LA. dump
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) I can't remember the last good thing I heard about LA. San Diego would be great. I was up in the Central California Coast last week, that would be amazing. San Fran area would be great, too. LA? Absolutely zero desire.
December 7, 201114 yr San Diego and Fort Worth are my two favorites. That's with the caveat that I hate cold weather. I grew up with below freezing weather in winter, snow, etc and I want no part of that again. San Diego, beautiful weather, much less traffic and crowds compared to LA for instance. Mountains are only a few hours away. Pretty easy drive to more secluded Baja "California" beaches. Fort Worth, nice weather, get all 4 seasons, but not to an extreme. Small town feel, but tons of stuff to do. Cool river walk with canals cutting through the city is currently being built that will put San Antonio's to shame :-). Cool cities like San Antonio and Austin are a couple of hours away. Raleigh-Durham is another nice city. Lots of trees, 4 seasons, research triangle with lots of educated folks running around. Edited December 7, 201114 yr by Palehosefan
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) I can't remember the last good thing I heard about LA. Umm...I expect more from you.
December 7, 201114 yr Los Angeles has good weather, usually. And its big enough that you can get whatever you want. Beyond that? s***hole. One great big festering neon distraction. A giant, never-ending blob of plastic suburbia. Like San Diego but with 10x worse traffic, 10x more pollution, 10x more crime and 10x more people. No thanks.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:41 AM) San Diego would be great. I was up in the Central California Coast last week, that would be amazing. San Fran area would be great, too. LA? Absolutely zero desire. What major-ish cities are there on the coast between LA and San Francisco? I know there's quite a bit of space there.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:50 AM) What major-ish cities are there on the coast between LA and San Francisco? I know there's quite a bit of space there. None that I know of. It was a comment more on how I'd take basically any part of California other than LA.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:46 AM) Umm...I expect more from you. I'm serious. Besides the good weather, all I've heard for a long time is the negative stuff people have already said.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:50 AM) What major-ish cities are there on the coast between LA and San Francisco? I know there's quite a bit of space there. San Jose, but that's about it. Santa Cruz too. Edited December 7, 201114 yr by GoSox05
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:52 AM) San Jose, but that's about it. He said "on the coast".
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) A giant, never-ending blob of plastic suburbia. That's what I dislike so much. It's pretty much all sprawl. It's ugly.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:52 AM) San Jose, but that's about it. That's sort of true, but San Jose doesn't even seem to have a coast.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:53 AM) That's sort of true, but San Jose doesn't even seem to have a coast. I've never been there, but Monterrey is supposed to be nice.
December 7, 201114 yr I had to sit and think about this. I really never want to leave chicago. But, my wife and I have talked and if we were to ever move we'd want to be near family/friends, or to a place where we know they'd come and visit a lot. So, here is my list for places OTHER than chicago metro area. 1) Tampa Bay / Orlando, FL (lots of visitors, warm weather) 2) Iowa City/Cedar Rapids, IA (family, my wife is from Iowa) 3) Tomah, WI (family, wife's uncle loves there) Beyond those three, we really have no ambitions to move anywhere else.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 10:52 AM) I'm serious. Besides the good weather, all I've heard for a long time is the negative stuff people have already said. LA gets ragged on because of the pollution and the traffic. But there's a reason for all the traffic and the pollution - because so many people want to live there! The weather, the entertainment, the beaches, the food, the people...there are tons of reasons to live in LA. Not saying I would want to do it without lots of money, but let's not act like it's not a world-class city, folks.
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) LA gets ragged on because of the pollution and the traffic. But there's a reason for all the traffic and the pollution - because so many people want to live there! The weather, the entertainment, the beaches, the food, the people...there are tons of reasons to live in LA. Not saying I would want to do it without lots of money, but let's not act like it's not a world-class city, folks. Lots of people like Justin Beiber and Twilight, not sure if mass appeal is the best way to judge! I don't begrudge anyone that does like LA, it just isn't for me.
December 7, 201114 yr Not necessarily in order, but: Chicago Anchorage Pittsburgh Boston Tampa Raleigh Seattle Portland...Maine St. Louis
December 7, 201114 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 03:57 PM) LA gets ragged on because of the pollution and the traffic. But there's a reason for all the traffic and the pollution - because so many people want to live there! The weather, the entertainment, the beaches, the food, the people...there are tons of reasons to live in LA. Not saying I would want to do it without lots of money, but let's not act like it's not a world-class city, folks. No, the reason for all the traffic is they built a city so sprawled that it's public transit sucks and you are forced to drive everywhere. Sprawl + 2nd largest city + no public transit = Awful traffic.
December 7, 201114 yr I've now seen Anchorage mentioned a couple of times. Don't get me wrong, as I have always wanted to visit Alaska, but is Anchorage a booming town or something?
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