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2011-2012 NBA Season Thread

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QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:54 AM)
Grant Hill's decision to stay in PHX had to have been knowing that they would continue to be bad and the Bulls would be good again.......there was no reason to think anything else.

 

He's like Kerry Wood, rather be in a low pressure situation than a chance at winning a championship.

 

He also got more money in Phoenix than the Bulls could have paid him.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:07 AM)
There's also a medical staff thing going on in Phoenix that no other team in the NBA seems able to match.

 

No doubt about their abilities but I'm not buying it as the reason he stayed

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 10:54 AM)
Grant Hill's decision to stay in PHX had to have been knowing that they would continue to be bad and the Bulls would be good again.......there was no reason to think anything else.

 

He's like Kerry Wood, rather be in a low pressure situation than a chance at winning a championship.

I'd reckon it had a lot more to do with the $$ and the fact that their medical staff actually keeps him on the court.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:08 AM)
He also got more money in Phoenix than the Bulls could have paid him.

 

Another reason he doesn't regret his decision

 

Money > Winning

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:10 AM)
No doubt about their abilities but I'm not buying it as the reason he stayed

 

The Bulls medical staff sure doesn't seem to have those results, regardless.

Is it really the medical staff though? Hills ankle injury was horrific, I think it honestly took him that long to truly recover from it to actually stay on the court.

 

 

I would tend to lean towards the money aspect

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:16 PM)
Is it really the medical staff though? Hills ankle injury was horrific, I think it honestly took him that long to truly recover from it to actually stay on the court.

 

 

I would tend to lean towards the money aspect

He's not the only guy who has said that the Phoenix staff works miracles. Nash is a big one also (that might well be why he keeps staying there also). And I believe they've had other injury recoveries in the past decade, someone remind me?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:22 AM)
And I believe they've had other injury recoveries in the past decade, someone remind me?

 

Amar'e is one.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:24 PM)
Amar'e is one.

Shaq played a full season there didn't he?

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:12 AM)
Another reason he doesn't regret his decision

 

Money > Winning

99% of pro athletes agree with Hill, not gonna hate on him for that, besides, I'd rather have White Mamba :headbang

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:25 AM)
Shaq played a full season there didn't he?

 

75 games in 08-09, which was the most games he played since 04-05. He also praised the medical staff over there.

Edited by SoxAce

On a serious note, Hill could've helped a ton, he would be the creater on the Bench Mob and we would see less of KK

 

Watson

Brewer

Hill

Taj

Asik

 

that's a filthy 2nd unit, and Rose would get some help on ball handling duties=more rest.

 

And Deng too

Edited by MexSoxFan#1

Danny Ainge came out and said he'd be open to trading the Big 3 given the team's slow start. I'd imagine Thibs would be pushing for the acquisition of either of his boys.

 

Kevin Garnett - 1 year @ $21.2 F*CK NO

Paul Pierce - 3 years @ $15.3 F*CK NO

Ray Allen - 1 year @ $10 YES PLEASE

 

So, what does it cost to bring in Ray Allen? He's still a perfect fit which would allow Rip to be a super sub off the bench at SF/SG/PG?

 

Honestly, the only deal for the Bulls that doesn't hurt us in the frontcourt would be Korver + Brewer, which is basically a net nothing for the Celtics, but they don't add any salary beyond this year. The Bulls could definitely make it worthwhile for the Celtics with the Bobcats' pick they own that gets more valuable each year, and a few of their own. If you have to toss in Butler, do it.

 

Oh Lord, it'd be too perfect.

Edited by Steve9347

I really don't think I'd give up that Bobcats pick for Allen.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:44 AM)
I really don't think I'd give up that Bobcats pick for Allen.

I think you're on drugs. Then again, I like the idea of the Bulls winning a Championship this year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:44 AM)
I really don't think I'd give up that Bobcats pick for Allen.

I agree, that's gotta fetch more than Allen at this point of his career.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 12:46 PM)
I think you're on drugs. Then again, I like the idea of the Bulls winning a Championship this year.

I mean, if it's Korver + Brewer + that pick to balance the salaries...the Bulls lose some shooting and some defense as well. Can you convince me that Ray Allen would be a huge upgrade and not just a small one?

Id be fine with KG and Allen.

 

But no way can the Bulls make those salaries work, unless they send something like Boozer, Korver +.

 

Id actually consider Boozer for KG because getting out from that Boozer contract is valuable.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:50 AM)
I mean, if it's Korver + Brewer + that pick to balance the salaries...the Bulls lose some shooting and some defense as well. Can you convince me that Ray Allen would be a huge upgrade and not just a small one?

Huge is an understatement. Allen is a conditioned freak and completely lights out from 3 and efficient as all hell. He hasn't lost anything the last few seasons.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:52 AM)
Id actually consider Boozer for KG because getting out from that Boozer contract is valuable.

There's no way the Celtics would do that. Forget KG. Ray Allen is all that matters.

All things being considered if I could add 1 Celrtic, it would be KG. ( I didnt mean the Celtics would do Boozer for KG straight up, just that in a deal for KG youd have to add some salary like Boozer)

 

Allen would be great to spread the floor etc, but having KG would really help the Bulls against the Heat. Heat have a strong back court, Allen/Rose on the floor would mean that 1 of them is likely going to have to guard Wade.

 

I doubt the Bulls get any of them, but if I could pick itd be KG (and he may consider resigning for a decent deal)

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 11:40 AM)
Danny Ainge came out and said he'd be open to trading the Big 3 given the team's slow start. I'd imagine Thibs would be pushing for the acquisition of either of his boys.

 

Kevin Garnett - 1 year @ $21.2 F*CK NO

Paul Pierce - 3 years @ $15.3 F*CK NO

Ray Allen - 1 year @ $10 YES PLEASE

 

So, what does it cost to bring in Ray Allen? He's still a perfect fit which would allow Rip to be a super sub off the bench at SF/SG/PG?

 

Honestly, the only deal for the Bulls that doesn't hurt us in the frontcourt would be Korver + Brewer, which is basically a net nothing for the Celtics, but they don't add any salary beyond this year. The Bulls could definitely make it worthwhile for the Celtics with the Bobcats' pick they own that gets more valuable each year, and a few of their own. If you have to toss in Butler, do it.

 

Oh Lord, it'd be too perfect.

 

Picking up another shooter would be awesome. It would also free up money in the coming years for the Bulls, which I would bet would stop the Cs from doing that deal.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2012 -> 01:08 PM)
Picking up another shooter would be awesome. It would also free up money in the coming years for the Bulls, which I would bet would stop the Cs from doing that deal.

Don't Brewer and Korver expire?

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