Danks throwing a LOT of short armed pitches out there.

Way to make it hard on yourself Danks...

really? let's look down the line.

 

Cleveland: Masterson, Jimenez, Lowe, Tomlin, Gomez (we're better)

Minnesota: Pavano, Liriano, Hendricks, Blackburn, ??? (we're better)

Tigers: Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Wilk, Fister (injured), Smyly (closest, but honestly after Verlander I like all our pitchers better)

Royals: Chen, Hochevar, Sanchez, Mendoza, Duffy (again... I say we're better)

 

can you honestly argue this? we have 2 high-celing, high-floor guys in Danks and Floyd. No matter what, they won't be BAD. Sale has potential to be an ace, Peavy - if he stays healthy - can compete with any pitcher in this division not named Verlander. And Humber - even if he's a mid-4s ERA is still one of, if not the best #5 in the division.

 

I'd call that rock-solid.

 

Me watching those consecutive hits in the first inning? I'd call that rock solid.

I think John Danks is a very good #3 pitcher. But thats about it. Sale could be an ace.

you apparently don't know what a #3 pitcher looks like in major league baseball

Danks get the groundball to Morel to end it. Indians leave bases loaded, 4-1 Sox after 3.

hahaa....Hawk gettin' pissed at Morel's throw. "C,mon..."

Paul Konerko, Pickin' Machine

I see where play-by-play says there were some deep fly outs. Morel/Viciedo hit it good?

 

Wow, that was ugly, inefficient, rocky...but still it is another 0 on the board for Clevelanders.

 

That's why we have PK at first. That was a good play with the bases loaded

hahaa....Hawk gettin' pissed at Morel's throw. "C,mon..."

 

Seriously, though, bad throw by Morel. He's not having a good first week in pretty much any respect.

I see where play-by-play says there were some deep fly outs. Morel/Viciedo hit it good?

morel's would have been out if the wind weren't blowing in. warning track.

really? let's look down the line.

 

Cleveland: Masterson, Jimenez, Lowe, Tomlin, Gomez (we're better)

Minnesota: Pavano, Liriano, Hendricks, Blackburn, ??? (we're better)

Tigers: Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Wilk, Fister (injured), Smyly (closest, but honestly after Verlander I like all our pitchers better)

Royals: Chen, Hochevar, Sanchez, Mendoza, Duffy (again... I say we're better)

 

can you honestly argue this? we have 2 high-celing, high-floor guys in Danks and Floyd. No matter what, they won't be BAD. Sale has potential to be an ace, Peavy - if he stays healthy - can compete with any pitcher in this division not named Verlander. And Humber - even if he's a mid-4s ERA is still one of, if not the best #5 in the division.

 

I'd call that rock-solid.

Yeah, I can argue that easily.

 

Danks has never been a top flight starter, he's a guy who goes thorugh stretches where he doesn't have his changeup and winds up with an ERA in the upper 3's and is getting slowly worse. And last year he had a number of injury problems, which could easily be a sign that his body is starting to wear down.

 

Floyd gives innings but is incredibly inconsistent. He's put up decent numbers because he repeatedly put up ridiculous june/july numbers. On top of that, he has a couple long term injury things.

 

Peavy...no, he no longer can compete with anyone in the division if healthy. His fastball simply isn't there any more. He's at best an average pitcher with major health and durability concerns.

 

Sale...Sale has great stuff, huge mechanical/injury concerns, and ought to be on a 150 inning limit this year even though he won't be.

 

And Philip Humber, going in to last year, couldn't even make the Royals as a 6th starter/long relief guy. And he also has major durability concerns after last year.

 

Not all of these will come true as things that will bring the Sox down, but that's not "Rock Solid" in the Tampa Bay sense, for example. I can put a serious question mark on every guy in that rotation, at least in terms of filling their role.

I see where play-by-play says there were some deep fly outs. Morel/Viciedo hit it good?

 

Both to the warning track, I think they were both in the alleys or moreso towards center, so they were stung.

I see where play-by-play says there were some deep fly outs. Morel/Viciedo hit it good?

Yeah, I think Morel's would have been gone and Viciedo's would have been to the wall if it were July.

That is an insult to one legged dogs everywhere.

 

 

Beat me to it

Fuko with a lead off single

Yeah, I think Morel's would have been gone and Viciedo's would have been to the wall if it were July.

Did Morel pull his?

Did Morel pull his?

Nope, just a little right of dead CF

Another warning track shot by Viciedo. Come on, summer, happen already!

5-4-3 DP ends the 4th for the Sox.

Beckham, still needs some work at the plate.

What happened to those days of Beckham driving balls the other way (like when he came up and was most effective)?

Yeah, I can argue that easily.

 

Danks has never been a top flight starter, he's a guy who goes thorugh stretches where he doesn't have his changeup and winds up with an ERA in the upper 3's and is getting slowly worse. And last year he had a number of injury problems, which could easily be a sign that his body is starting to wear down.

 

Floyd gives innings but is incredibly inconsistent. He's put up decent numbers because he repeatedly put up ridiculous june/july numbers. On top of that, he has a couple long term injury things.

 

Peavy...no, he no longer can compete with anyone in the division if healthy. His fastball simply isn't there any more. He's at best an average pitcher with major health and durability concerns.

 

Sale...Sale has great stuff, huge mechanical/injury concerns, and ought to be on a 150 inning limit this year even though he won't be.

 

And Philip Humber, going in to last year, couldn't even make the Royals as a 6th starter/long relief guy. And he also has major durability concerns after last year.

 

Not all of these will come true as things that will bring the Sox down, but that's not "Rock Solid" in the Tampa Bay sense, for example. I can put a serious question mark on every guy in that rotation, at least in terms of filling their role.

I'm simply saying compared to the rest of the division, this rotation IS rock solid. and no, Floyd is actually AMAZINGLY consistent over the last few years. His ERA doesn't reflect it, but that's because it's an imperfect stat. FIP's of 3.77, 3.46, and 3.88 the last 3 seasons to total a 12.4 WAR. He's been much, much better than his ERA indicates.

 

I'll give you Danks' inconsistency, but he still had a 3.77 FIP last year. again, much better than his ERA.

 

And, when healthy, I said Peavy can compete with anyone in the division not named Verlander. Who do you like better?

Edited April 11, 201213 yr by Reddy

Looks like Masterson's sinker is up and then he used the changeup down and that's what Gordon went after. The other two were out of the zone