So essentially Kenny should just not say anything in interviews? I'm sure no one would complain about that...

 

I guess you would have preferred he said "No comment."?

 

I'm not suggesting he say absolutely nothing, and the term "no comment" almost sounds like he is trying to hide something. I would just be smart about it and say something to the effect of we are currently looking at all of our options to improve the ball club. Leave money and attendance out of it.

 

Media asks him about attendance and finances because they know he can't resist saying something that fans will jump on, taken the wrong way or not. If K.W. stopped mentioning it when asked, the media would stop trying to bait him about it.

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I guess you would have preferred he said "No comment."?

 

I'm not suggesting he say absolutely nothing, and the term "no comment" almost sounds like he is trying to hide something. I would just be smart about it and say something to the effect of we are currently looking at all of our options to improve the ball club. Leave money and attendance out of it.

 

Media asks him about attendance and finances because they know he can't resist saying something that fans will jump on, taken the wrong way or not. If K.W. stopped mentioning it when asked, the media would stop trying to bait him about it.

They keep asking because it's an obvious issue, and KW isn't saying anything that should be a shocker to fans.

I guess you would have preferred he said "No comment."?

 

I'm not suggesting he say absolutely nothing, and the term "no comment" almost sounds like he is trying to hide something. I would just be smart about it and say something to the effect of we are currently looking at all of our options to improve the ball club. Leave money and attendance out of it.

 

Media asks him about attendance and finances because they know he can't resist saying something that fans will jump on, taken the wrong way or not. If K.W. stopped mentioning it when asked, the media would stop trying to bait him about it.

 

If Kenny didn't answer those questions directly, the media and fans would freak out.

They keep asking because it's an obvious issue, and KW isn't saying anything that should be a shocker to fans.

 

Many people spent all last fall and winter talking about how they weren't renewing or buying tickets. Yet when attendance drops, people start freaking out and looking for people to blame. Um, uh, ok.

they can have omen

 

And I would agree. If we are not competing then there really is no good reason for him to be on the team.

Right on cue, the nice and lazy media playing the meatball contingent like a fiddle.

As oppossed to the great hard working KW and the oh mighty JR, who use the media every chance they get. No one dare question them EVER!

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As oppossed to the great hard working KW and the oh mighty JR, who use the media every chance they get. No one dare question them EVER!

 

Right. Because no one ever challenges them. Dude what planet are you from?

Right. Because no one ever challenges them. Dude what planet are you from?

Every article written that dare questions KW on attendance you say lazy media and meatball fans come up with something new.

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Every article written that questions KW on attendance you say lazy media and meatball fans come up with something new.

 

I'd love to come up with something new to talk about, but come on. No one questions Kenny or JR? Really? If no one questions them, why the hell are we on like post #200 of this dead horse topic?

 

The entire fanbase knew attendance was going to fall hard this year, yet here we are acting like this is a surprise? Come on.

As oppossed to the great hard working KW and the oh mighty JR, who use the media every chance they get. No one dare question them EVER!

 

how often do you hear JR in any interview? It seriously happens like once a year

how often do you hear JR in any interview? It seriously happens like once a year

 

And Kenny is maybe once a month, maybe twice during the season.

how often do you hear JR in any interview? It seriously happens like once a year

KW does his talking points for him. that is why he has been here so long.

KW does his talking points for him. that is why he has been here so long.

 

How often do you get out and blast your employer publicly?

I'd love to come up with something new to talk about, but come on. No one questions Kenny or JR? Really? If no one questions them, why the hell are we on like post #200 of this dead horse topic?

 

The entire fanbase knew attendance was going to fall hard this year, yet here we are acting like this is a surprise? Come on.

Its no surprise, but then again the team being in contention is. People want to look for reasons. Its pretty simple. Bad year last year. No offseason excitement leads to fewer season ticket renewals and fewer pre-season ticket sales. Dynamic pricing leads to fewer in season ticket sales.

How often do you get out and blast your employer publicly?

When KW gives the " We can't spend a dollar, If we only have 50 cents." That is 100% directive from JR. Did JR say it himself to the media.......no............everyone knows where it came from.

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If Kenny didn't answer those questions directly, the media and fans would freak out.

What he's trying to do is be realistic with the fans so there isn't an even greater alienation going on if they don't add to the club.

When KW gives the " We can't spend a dollar, If we only have 50 cents." That is 100% directive from JR. Did JR say it himself to the media.......no............everyone knows where it came from.

 

Again, when was the last time you went out and publicly blasted your employer?

What he's trying to do is be realistic with the fans so there isn't an even greater alienation going on if they don't add to the club.

 

It is also common sense. Less people=less revenue=less payroll.

It is also common sense. Less people=less revenue=less payroll.

I think the question is isn't there a better way to attempt to increase revenue than saying attendance is an issue? It hasn't worked in the past, why would it work now? If its an issue, do something about it. I don't understand how you can give people a discount if they find a code, but can't afford just to make the unsold seat the same price so people don't have to jump through hoops to get it.

 

I'm beginning to think the White Sox actually don't mind this attendance and media talk. It makes people overlook revenue and concentrate on weak ticket sales. If they are pricing tickets at the level they are pricing them, they must be hard to get. Isn't that how supply and demand works?

 

I don't understand why Brooks would rather keep bleacher seats at $90 and lower boxes in the corner at $105 rather than actually sell them and get some revenue. KW shouldn't be discussing this stuff with the media, he should be discussing it with Brooks and his crew.

 

Since its apparently all about dollars "available" let's look at 2011. The Sox were in the top 10 in revenue generated in MLB. Were they in the top 10 in on field performance? Who really is the party not holding up their end of the deal?

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I think the question is isn't there a better way to attempt to increase revenue than saying attendance is an issue? It hasn't worked in the past, why would it work now? If its an issue, do something about it. I don't understand how you can give people a discount if they find a code, but can't afford just to make the unsold seat the same price so people don't have to jump through hoops to get it.

 

I'm beginning to think the White Sox actually don't mind this attendance and media talk. It makes people overlook revenue and concentrate on weak ticket sales. If they are pricing tickets at the level they are pricing them, they must be hard to get. Isn't that how supply and demand works?

 

I don't understand why Brooks would rather keep bleacher seats at $90 and lower boxes in the corner at $105 rather than actually sell them and get some revenue. KW shouldn't be discussing this stuff with the media, he should be discussing it with Brooks and his crew.

 

Since its apparently all about dollars "available" let's look at 2011. The Sox were in the top 10 in revenue generated in MLB. Were they in the top 10 in on field performance? Who really is the party not holding up their end of the deal?

Considering how these guys have showed they can play this year, the players did not hold up their end of the deal last year...and I feel that way for most years when we don't compete.

Discount seats-pricing gimmicks-it may be as simple as free or $5.00 parking or reduced concession prices. When I went earkier this year, I was surprised by not that food prices were up, but how much. Maybe sell "taste portions" for smaller amount. It is a difficult place to bring a family by public transportation-and who wants to take a bus or train back to a car at night anywhere in the dark. Make it an affordable and pleasant trip, and the seat price issue becomes less of a reason not to go.

I don't understand why Brooks would rather keep bleacher seats at $90 and lower boxes in the corner at $105 rather than actually sell them and get some revenue. KW shouldn't be discussing this stuff with the media, he should be discussing it with Brooks and his crew.

 

Ta-da! That, and as somebody mentioned above, the food prices? They rape you at the Cell.

 

Here's my case: did anybody try to get online to get Cubs/Sox at the Cell? I was just poking around (really don't care, since it was on a M/T/W--WTF?) and even though the Cubs suck and the White Sox' attendance is dismal and nobody cares about the series much anymore, you could forget getting a ticket for anything less than 80 bucks, even in the nosebleeds. Stubhub was no better.

 

So they lost me on this one, and I've never missed a Cubs/Sox series until this year.

 

Even for this week's Brewers series the decent seats are priced ridiculously.

 

I wonder what economy these guys think we have right now.

Ta-da! That, and as somebody mentioned above, the food prices? They rape you at the Cell.

 

Here's my case: did anybody try to get online to get Cubs/Sox at the Cell? I was just poking around (really don't care, since it was on a M/T/W--WTF?) and even though the Cubs suck and the White Sox' attendance is dismal and nobody cares about the series much anymore, you could forget getting a ticket for anything less than 80 bucks, even in the nosebleeds. Stubhub was no better.

 

So they lost me on this one, and I've never missed a Cubs/Sox series until this year.

 

Even for this week's Brewers series the decent seats are priced ridiculously.

 

I wonder what economy these guys think we have right now.

It's obviously some kind of algorithm they're running which theoretically optimizes revenues. My guess is it is sort of like a production cost model of some sort that they are manipulating on the fly.

 

I don't think they are just pulling numbers out of their asses.

It's obviously some kind of algorithm they're running which theoretically optimizes revenues. My guess is it is sort of like a production cost model of some sort that they are manipulating on the fly.

 

I don't think they are just pulling numbers out of their asses.

Looks like they need a new quant guy. If they are optimizing revenues, KW wouldn't need to say anything.

Looks like they need a new quant guy. If they are optimizing revenues, KW wouldn't need to say anything.

Optimizing revenues based on expected attendance, not on possible attendance.