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The Grades

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Konerko: (B) - great start, we all know what happened later

Beckham: © - defensive got even better, flashes of hope with the bat especially late

Youkilis: (C+) - brought some production to where we were hurting but wasnt that great

Alexei: © - what happened to his bat?

Tank: (B+) - wasnt amazing, but a good freshman season and thats why he gets a +, repeat next year and its a -

De Aza: (B+) - felt like he died down a bit in the second half

Rios: (A) - we would have been screwed without him

AJ: (A-) - you know its a good season when a PED rumor is believable

Dunn: (B) - lets get that average up a bit and this is an A

 

Peavy: (A-) - if i would have told you peavy would pitch as much as he did before the season youd call me crazy

Sale: (A+) - will be a perennial cy young option, pray to god his arm doesnt fall off

Floyd: (C+) - battled injuries, pitched well at times

Quintana: (B) - came from no where, interested to see him next year

Liriano: © - flashes of dominance, will benefit from an entire ST with coop

 

Wise: (B+) - amazing pick up

Jor. Danks: C - like his attitude, would like him to be our 4th OF

Flowers: C - that bat has some serious power if it can develop a bit more

Hudson: (F) - gtfo

Olmedo: (F) - gtfo

 

Santiago: (C+) - i really like what i saw when he moved to the rotation

Reed: (B-) - great first half, seemed fatigued 2nd half

Thornton: (B-) - meh

Crain: (A-) - why does every underrate him?

Jones: (A-) - considering where he came from? awesome

Myers: (B-) - losing his stuff, let him walk

 

Robin: (B) - could have been worse, a lot worse

 

KW: (A) - ill be the first to say he got lucky

 

 

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 06:55 PM)
A: Rios, Pierzysnki, Sale, Peavy, Jones, Veal, Crain

B: Konerko, De Aza, Youkilis, Wise, Quintana, Santiago, Crain, Thornton, Myers

C+: Dunn, Flowers, Floyd, Reed

C-: Beckham, Liriano

D: Ramirez, Viciedo, Humber

F: Hudson, Morel

Crain was busy to get graded twice. Ramirez and Viciedo as D's is insane.

A = Performed well above salary and reasonable expectations for his abilities and/or roster spot:

AJ

Rios

Sale

Quintana

Axelrod

Jones

Wise

Veal

 

B = Played very well overall/took big steps forward/etc.; Player probably worth more during this season than he was paid by the Sox; Roster spot easily justified:

Reed

Crain - slightly outperformed his contract; paid to be a top setup man & he was

Myers - his help goes well beyond what the Sox gave him *this* season, however the buyout/possible reworked deal affects this ranking

Youkilis

Viciedo - haters gonna hate

Santiago - he was bad early on but he proved he is a Major League pitcher and a valuable piece

Omogrosso

Flowers

 

C = Played well enough to earn his salary/roster spot & playing time:

Alexei

Beckham

Dunn

Paulie

Peavy - $17M + $4M guaranteed buyout = $21M pitcher and that he was definitely not; if you ignore the buyout then he pitched well enough to earn the $17M

Thornton

Floyd

Jordan Danks - happy for him & HR was great but mental mistakes should have him lower at a D; I just like his progress so I'm putting him here

 

D = Performed at a level below what he is paid/played under his roster spot:

Humber

Stewart

Lillibridge

Septimo - talent is there & showed enough of it to get another shot at a lefty specialist role when Thornton is traded this offseason

 

F = No excuse for being on the team, let alone the a trip to the pay winda (is Dusty Rhodes still alive?):

Uh-Ohman

Rongey the Ohman lover with his rah-rah pro-Ohman postgame crap

 

Not grading: Soxtalk whipping boys and/or tiny sample size players & Danks who was injured

QUOTE (staxx @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 07:23 PM)
KW: (A) - ill be the first to say he got lucky

Then he'd probably be the second.

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Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse.

 

The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie.

 

On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:44 AM)
Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse.

 

The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie.

 

On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it.

 

You've b****ed more about this year more than you've b****ed about any other year before, or so it seems.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 08:01 AM)
You've b****ed more about this year more than you've b****ed about any other year before, or so it seems.

 

Well I'm done b****ing except in threads about Ozzie. Maybe it's the first year of post-Ozzie finally being over. Hopefully it'll be a productive offseason and maybe next year things will click better from start through finish.I wonder how soon before the Sox will start making some moves?

I would think a decision on AJP is coming very soon. If we don't keep him, I'd think we could use a decent backup to go with Flowers.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:44 AM)
Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse.

 

The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie.

 

On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it.

Oddly worded, yet it works. Negative = Ozzie.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:44 AM)
Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse.

 

The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie.

 

On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it.

 

collapse> team quitting on manager

A = Performed well above salary and/or reasonable expectations for his abilities and roster spot:

Rios

Sale

Quintana

De Aza (A/B close call)

 

B = Played well overall/took big steps forward/etc.; Player probably worth more during this season than he was paid by the Sox, or at least met expectations and provided above-replacement value, or met value and beat expectations...

AJP

Dunn

Konerko (B/C close call)

Viciedo

Peavy (A against expectations, C against salary)

Nate Jones

Wise

Veal

Crain

Myers

Santiago

Omogrosso

 

C = Played at salary and/or expectation levels, give or take:

Alexei

Beckham (could be B, close call)

Reed

Youkilis (close to B also)

Thornton (could be a D)

Floyd

JorDanks

Flowers

Axelrod

Escobar

 

D = Performed at a level below his pay grade and/or fell below expectations:

Humber

Liriano

Stewart

Lillibridge

Septimo

Morel

Fukudome

 

F = Complete Failure professionally

Ohman

Olmedo (apparently it was a bad idea to have a last name starting with the letter 'O' this year)

 

INCOMPLETE

John Danks

Lopez, Johnson, Gimenez and anyone else with not enough playing time to mean anything

 

COACHING STAFF Performance:

Ventura: A-

Cooper and his group: B+

Manto and his group: B

 

 

I forgot about DeAza. He gets an A too. I thought he was a bench player trying to stretch it; turns out he's a legitimate MLB starting OF. He's been one of the better finds on a team full of great finds.

A is for Dan Johnson because I f***ing said so

 

F is for everybody else because OBVIOUSLY FAILURE

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 03:14 PM)
D = Performed at a level below his pay grade and/or fell below expectations:

Humber

Liriano

Stewart

Lillibridge

Septimo

Morel

Fukudome

 

I won't disagree with you, but it's kind of crazy a guy gets a D the same year he throws a perfect game.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 01:27 PM)
I won't disagree with you, but it's kind of crazy a guy gets a D the same year he throws a perfect game.

 

He gets a F from me. He had a horrible body of work this year, even including the perfect game.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 01:27 PM)
I won't disagree with you, but it's kind of crazy a guy gets a D the same year he throws a perfect game.

 

Yea, I hate when people judge something based on a single outlier from the rest of their career.

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