It's not a black and white issue. It's not an either/or situation. If the Sox could go out and get a top notch (and very expensive) outfielder to replace Viciedo, they probably would if winning right now was the most important thing and they had the money. The team has to do what they can to compete AND build for the future.

 

That's why they are a run-of-the-mill outfit.

Platoon Viciedo/Dunn and get a LF'er.

 

I'm "hung up on" Viciedo because finding a platoon for him is the most cost effective way to improve the offense.

No way, unless you want to platoon Viciedo and Wise. There just is not a cheap way to improve the offense that makes the Sox SO much better.

That's why they are a run-of-the-mill outfit.

yeah just like those damn Tampa Bay Rays, and those Oakland Athletics, and those LA Angels, and I could continue with more teams that build for the future AND the present at the same time.

why do you think the team can't do both? please answer that question!! a .750 OPS is not sinking this team! lol

 

This exactly. The very nature of the Sox payroll dictates that these kind of players are going to be in the line up. Viciedo is 23, and has played one full season at the major league level

That is the most expensive platoon in the league. It's also not going to happen.

Unless its fantasy baseball. That would also mean you need another OF'er which you have to sign as a FA (not likely) or trade for. And you have also taken your most promising young bat and one of your most valuable trade chips and limited his at bats severely while also stunting his development. I would say that is textbook poor management.

That is the most expensive platoon in the league. It's also not going to happen.

 

I did not suggest platooning Dunn.

That's why they are a run-of-the-mill outfit.

Why do you pay any attention to the White Sox if they bother you so much all the time?

I did not suggest platooning Dunn.

Really?

 

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 12:05 PM)

Platoon Viciedo/Dunn and get a LF'er.

 

I'm "hung up on" Viciedo because finding a platoon for him is the most cost effective way to improve the offense.

 

 

That's why they are a run-of-the-mill outfit.

I'm not sure what you mean by that statement.

 

But most teams are doing both, 2012 Miami Marlins excluded. The Sox aren't going to drop their payroll to $50 million and concentrate on rebuilding for 3 years, not are they going to increase payroll to $170 million to "ensure" a World Series showing.

This exactly. The very nature of the Sox payroll dictates that these kind of players are going to be in the line up. Viciedo is 23, and has played one full season at the major league level

Don't forget, Marty is the guy who said the entire season the Sox had no chance, they need to rebuild. Now he's blaming it all on Viciedo. He needs some help.

Don't forget, Marty is the guy who said the entire season the Sox had no chance, they need to rebuild. Now he's blaming it all on Viciedo. He needs some help.

 

Alot of help

Alot of help

I'm pretty sure he's just trolling today.

Why do you pay any attention to the White Sox if they bother you so much all the time?

 

Why do you make stuff about the messenger. You do this to most you disagree with.

Don't forget, Marty is the guy who said the entire season the Sox had no chance, they need to rebuild. Now he's blaming it all on Viciedo. He needs some help.

 

You're all about the personal attack.

Why do you make stuff about the messenger. You do this to most you disagree with.

out of curiosity, who anointed you the messenger?

You're all about the personal attack.

A QUACK ATTACK!

You're all about the personal attack.

Start the violins.

out of curiosity, who anointed you the messenger?

 

himself

out of curiosity, who anointed you the messenger?

Why do you make stuff about the messenger. You do this to most you disagree with.

I'm not making anything up. You don't post unless you have a complaint. We all understand you hate Viciedo. I guess today, you wanted some more attention. You get it, and you complain some more.

so Marty is really Milla Jovovich rockin' a boy's haircut.

 

love it.

I'm not sure what you mean by that statement.

 

But most teams are doing both, 2012 Miami Marlins excluded. The Sox aren't going to drop their payroll to $50 million and concentrate on rebuilding for 3 years, not are they going to increase payroll to $170 million to "ensure" a World Series showing.

 

How important is Viciedo's development to whatever 5-year plan it is that the Sox have? I don't think he's important enough to forgo the opportunity to get more offensive production by finding him a platoon for next year.

Enough. Start discussing baseball again.

I'm not making anything up. You don't post unless you have a complaint. We all understand you hate Viciedo. I guess today, you wanted some more attention. You get it, and you complain some more.

 

This is a straight forward personal attack that's against the message board guidelines.

In all seriousness, I'd be curious to see people's lists for Why We lost in '12. I would have to imagine Viciedo ranks somewhere in the double digit range, right?

 

1. The year long disaster (outside of about a month) at 3b

2. Not being able to beat the Royals

3. Beckham's lack of development

4. Danks injury

5. Konerko's injury

6. Dunn's injury

7. Reeds collapse as closer

8. Too many starting pitchers who had innings limitations

9. Not being able to beat the Tigers down the stretch

 

That's off of the top of my head, with no looking back at anything for ideas.