http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new-york-....html?hpt=hp_t1

 

This is a really sick story. Now our emergency responders need to fear for their lives when they arrive at the scene? Do firefighters, ambulance workers, etc. need to start packing heat? This is insane

 

Absolutely disgusting.

H. Christ.

 

The story now is saying that the shooter probably set the fire to draw them in.

This kind of stuff used to happen all the time in the Chicago housing projects.

H. Christ.

 

The story now is saying that the shooter probably set the fire to draw them in.

Thats immediately what I figured when I heard. Only thing that makes sense.

Thats immediately what I figured when I heard. Only thing that makes sense.

In case you haven't seen the full version, he's a former felon, spent like 17 years in jail after killing his grandmother in ~1980.

 

Nothing on a specific motive or reason for this attack yet.

Another win for the uniquely American corrections system.

What a horrible story during the holiday season or any time.

Arming firefighters will solve everything.

He left a note he was going to do what he did best, kill people. Smh

According to the police, he was armed with a revolver, a shotgun, and a Bushmaster AR-15 style semi automatic assault rifle.

I bet Bushmaster is hoping and praying the next murderer will use one of their competitors' .223's. Or maybe not...

another fine law-abiding citizen. armed guard in every fire truck, plus it's Mortal Kombat's fault.

Now is not the time to politicize gun control.

Regardless of my opinion on it, this doesn't seem to be the place for condescending remarks and comes off as tasteless and classless.

I/ll stop with the condescending remarks directed towards Wayne LaPierre for his tasteless and classless speech last Friday as soon as he starts supporting some meaningful gun control.

Then take it to any of the other threads discussing the issue.

a thread about yet-more gun violence seems to be an appropriate place to comment on gun control and the absurdity of anti-gun control arguments.

a thread about yet-more gun violence seems to be an appropriate place to comment on gun control and the absurdity of anti-gun control arguments.

 

And so StrangeSox decreed ... all hail the all-knowing StrangeSox!

Yes, "decrees" usually contain weak statements like "seems"

Actually this guy already ceded his 2nd amendment rights by being a convicted felon. So aside from banning guns (something you earlier said you didn't want to do) what could've stopped this?

Yes, "decrees" usually contain weak statements like "seems"

 

I was referring to the "the absurdity of anti-gun control arguments" comment, as if every anti-gun control argument is wrong. It's great you think that way. Other reasonable and intelligent people disagree.

Actually this guy already ceded his 2nd amendment rights by being a convicted felon. So aside from banning guns (something you earlier said you didn't want to do) what could've stopped this?

I think he killed his grandmother with a hammer. We really need a hammer ban. if it just saved one life, it would be worth it.

Actually this guy already ceded his 2nd amendment rights by being a convicted felon. So aside from banning guns (something you earlier said you didn't want to do) what could've stopped this?

 

Might be interesting to see how he got the guns. Gun show? Might be fruitful to talk about private sales in terms of gun legislation. I can't sell my privately owned Vicodin, maybe it won't hurt if I have to go through an intermediary to sell my gun. I traded some stereo equipment for a Glock on Craigslist and I was shocked that that is legal.

 

Beyond that, my biggest takeaway from this crime is that it brings into focus our punitive corrections system and how it fails to rehabilitate people like this killer who clearly had some problems. Our blood lust to punish interferes with our ability to reintegrate these folks and try to make them productive members of society.

Edited December 28, 201213 yr by Jake

Might be interesting to see how he got the guns. Gun show? Might be fruitful to talk about private sales in terms of gun legislation. I can't sell my privately owned Vicodin, maybe it won't hurt if I have to go through an intermediary to sell my gun. I traded some stereo equipment for a Glock on Craigslist and I was shocked that that is legal.

 

Beyond that, my biggest takeaway from this crime is that it brings into focus our punitive corrections system and how it fails to rehabilitate people like this killer who clearly had some problems. Our blood lust to punish interferes with our ability to reintegrate these folks and try to make them productive members of society.

Some people can't be rehabilitated. And some don't want to. The true problems come with what do you do with those two classes of people. From what I read, this guy didn't want his parole even though he was supposedly a model prisoner. They gave it to him anyway.