I know it's Phil, but I found this interesting:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/philgrogers/stat...712900234772480

 

It would probably cost us Santiago, and I'd probably do it.

Just looked him up. Already 26. I'd rather take my chances with Viciedo for 2 more years.

Edited November 1, 201312 yr by SoxPride18

Who's Khris Davis?

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=OF

Just looked him up. Already 26. I'd rather take my chances with Viciedo for 2 more years.

 

I'm presuming they would move Tank to 1B, or...wait for it...

 

3B

Dude can really take a walk but 1. I'm not giving up Santiago for him alone and 2. He doesn't play CF so I'm not interested.

 

Unless the Sox think Avi can hang in CF I don't think the Sox should be targeting any corner OFers.

Dude can really take a walk but 1. I'm not giving up Santiago for him alone and 2. He doesn't play CF so I'm not interested.

 

Unless the Sox think Avi can hang in CF I don't think the Sox should be targeting any corner OFers.

 

That's interesting. Can Garcia be any worse in CF than ADA?

That's interesting. Can Garcia be any worse in CF than ADA?

 

Well in Garcia's 201 innings in CF, fangraphs has him rated much worse than ADA so yes.

Edited November 1, 201312 yr by scs787

That's interesting. Can Garcia be any worse in CF than ADA?

Yes.

 

He could also be better.

 

De Aza could also be better.

Davis would generally fit what we're trying to do, but I wonder how advisable it is to continue adding right handed hitters.

 

We have:

 

Abreu

A. Garcia

Viciedo

Semien

 

as young guys that we think will definitely be long-term pieces, plus

 

Alexei

Beckham

Keppinger

Flowers/Phegley

 

and then our lefties

 

Dunn

De Aza

Gillaspie

Jordan Danks

L. Garcia

 

as LHH that have a chance to be on the roster next year. Dunn will be gone in a season at the latest and it seems we're trying to force de Aza out. That leaves us w/ Gillaspie, who might be a serviceable starter but not at the expense of Semien. Danks is fighting for backup time it seems and doesn't look like he is really much of an asset even in a platoon at the plate. Leury...I don't know that which hand he's hitting with really matters. Even if he hits well enough to have around, his value is never going to be his bat.

 

I'm happy for us to pursue the best young guys we can get, but we're looking at having no decent left-handed bats on our roster in the very near future. Micah Johnson is our best lefty in the minors, but he will probably need at least another year of seasoning, if not two. In that case, you're looking at Semien and Johnson potentially competing for a spot. Other than that, the only LHH in the high minors with a remote chance of playing in the bigs are Andy Wilkins (first base/DH), Carlos Sanchez (switch-hitter), Jared Mitchell, Dan Black (first base/DH), Keenyn Walker (switch-hitter). All of these guys either had bad years last year or are playing first base and have low ceiling bats.

Yes.

 

He could also be better.

 

De Aza could also be better.

 

Did Lillian hack your account?

 

All kidding aside, I totally agree.

Did Lillian hack your account?

 

All kidding aside, I totally agree.

 

Reading this thread put a big smile on my face. Thanks Jake. It's nice to hear someone else make the argument.

 

I'd wager that the next big acquisition will be that middle of the order left handed bat, not Khris Davis.

Hahn seems to know what he's doing and has a good plan.

Edited November 1, 201312 yr by Lillian

Davis would generally fit what we're trying to do, but I wonder how advisable it is to continue adding right handed hitters.

 

We have:

 

Abreu

A. Garcia

Viciedo

Semien

 

as young guys that we think will definitely be long-term pieces, plus

 

Alexei

Beckham

Keppinger

Flowers/Phegley

 

and then our lefties

 

Dunn

De Aza

Gillaspie

Jordan Danks

L. Garcia

 

as LHH that have a chance to be on the roster next year. Dunn will be gone in a season at the latest and it seems we're trying to force de Aza out. That leaves us w/ Gillaspie, who might be a serviceable starter but not at the expense of Semien. Danks is fighting for backup time it seems and doesn't look like he is really much of an asset even in a platoon at the plate. Leury...I don't know that which hand he's hitting with really matters. Even if he hits well enough to have around, his value is never going to be his bat.

 

I'm happy for us to pursue the best young guys we can get, but we're looking at having no decent left-handed bats on our roster in the very near future. Micah Johnson is our best lefty in the minors, but he will probably need at least another year of seasoning, if not two. In that case, you're looking at Semien and Johnson potentially competing for a spot. Other than that, the only LHH in the high minors with a remote chance of playing in the bigs are Andy Wilkins (first base/DH), Carlos Sanchez (switch-hitter), Jared Mitchell, Dan Black (first base/DH), Keenyn Walker (switch-hitter). All of these guys either had bad years last year or are playing first base and have low ceiling bats.

 

 

And all those guys who hit LH/SH on the market are going to be too expensive:

 

Granderson

Morales

Cano

Ellsbury

Choo

McCann

Salty

 

Everyone's chasing after the same thing. For some reason, I have a feeling Justin Morneau will be the DH in 2015, lol.

 

And you can't see them signing AJ for just one year, that doesn't make much if any sense (except to Greg).

Edited November 1, 201312 yr by caulfield12

I don't want anybody who spells Chris with a 'Kh'

I don't want anybody who spells Chris with a 'Kh'

Blame his parents.

Blame his parents.

 

I do believe that people 18 and older are legally allowed to change their names.

 

I'm presuming they would move Tank to 1B, or...wait for it...

 

3B

 

I posted it last week, but in 160 professional games at 3B, Viciedo's fielding percentage is about .905. That means, given about 350 chances and even allowing a .015 error margin, Viciedo would likely make about 28 errors at 3B - at the minimum. He might make as many as 40. I am not an error and fielding percentage guy for the most part, but Viciedo can't get to balls and can't field the ones he gets to. At some point, you have to be able to field the ball cleanly.

I posted it last week, but in 160 professional games at 3B, Viciedo's fielding percentage is about .905. That means, given about 350 chances and even allowing a .015 error margin, Viciedo would likely make about 28 errors at 3B - at the minimum. He might make as many as 40. I am not an error and fielding percentage guy for the most part, but Viciedo can't get to balls and can't field the ones he gets to. At some point, you have to be able to field the ball cleanly.

To be 100% fair...it's 162 innings, not games there, and most of those innings there were in 2011 when the Sox had already moved him to 1b in the minors then he was called up and put back at 3b after spending most of the year playing 1b, so literally with no practice or preparation before playing there.

 

That said, people should indeed stop trying to put him at a different defensive position. He's got a good enough arm that even if he doesn't get to a ton of balls he can be a tolerable corner OF if he's on a team that doesn't deserve to have the Benny Hill theme played every time there's a ball hit to a fielder.

no thanks to khris davis. we dont need a guy like him that is limited to only LF. esp if we would have to give up young starting pitching

To be 100% fair...it's 162 innings, not games there, and most of those innings there were in 2011 when the Sox had already moved him to 1b in the minors then he was called up and put back at 3b after spending most of the year playing 1b, so literally with no practice or preparation before playing there.

 

That said, people should indeed stop trying to put him at a different defensive position. He's got a good enough arm that even if he doesn't get to a ton of balls he can be a tolerable corner OF if he's on a team that doesn't deserve to have the Benny Hill theme played every time there's a ball hit to a fielder.

 

My numbers included his time in AA. Professional, not MLB. He's at like .895 in the majors

Edited November 1, 201312 yr by witesoxfan

My numbers included his time in AA. Professional, not MLB. He's at like .895 in the majors

Ah, now I getcha.