November 6, 201312 yr Darvish, Iwakuma, Scherzer. If Sale didn't have that one September start vs Cleveland... Who wins? I think Scherzer will due to wins (which don't matter). Edited November 6, 201312 yr by ChiSoxFan05
November 6, 201312 yr Author If there are three finalists, how do people finish in 4th, 5th, etc.? I hope Sale gets 4th over Felix.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFan05 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 07:51 PM) If there are three finalists, how do people finish in 4th, 5th, etc.? I hope Sale gets 4th over Felix. They're just finding a new way to add in another press release.
November 6, 201312 yr Impressed to see the voters put Iwakuma in the top three, unheralded and overshadowed by Felix, but very deserving.
November 6, 201312 yr Author I think the top 5 will be 5. Felix 4. Sale 3. Iwakuma 2. Darvish 1. Scherzer
November 6, 201312 yr Iwakuma as the 3rd finalist instead of Felix or Anibal Sanchez? WHAT? But regardless, I'd give Scherzer the CY, and it has nothing to do with wins. Felix with be my #2. Edited November 6, 201312 yr by Chilihead90
November 6, 201312 yr Author QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) Iwakuma as the 3rd finalist instead of Felix or Anibal Sanchez? WHAT? But regardless, I'd give Scherzer the CY, and it has nothing to do with wins. Felix with be my #2. I completely forgot about Sanchez. Man, was he ever overshadowed by Scherzer!
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFan05 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) I completely forgot about Sanchez. Man, was he ever overshadowed by Scherzer! Scherezer, Felix, Sanchez, Iwakuma, Sale, Darvish would be my top 6.
November 6, 201312 yr Iwakuma was 3rd in ERA, 2nd in WHIP, 3rd in IP, and 1st in WAR (depending on where you look). Not sure how you could be upset with him being a finalist. Sale has an amazing year and will have plenty of more chances to win it. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win 1 by the time he's 30.
November 6, 201312 yr Iwakuma was 3rd in ERA, 2nd in WHIP, 3rd in IP, and 1st in WAR (depending on where you look). Not sure how you could be upset with him being a finalist. Sale has an amazing year and will have plenty of more chances to win it. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win 1 by the time he's 30.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 08:57 PM) Iwakuma was 3rd in ERA, 2nd in WHIP, 3rd in IP, and 1st in WAR (depending on where you look). Not sure how you could be upset with him being a finalist. Sale has an amazing year and will have plenty of more chances to win it. I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't win 1 by the time he's 30. bWAR had Iwakuma #1? WTF?
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 10:14 PM) bWAR had Iwakuma #1? WTF? Yeah, I certainly wasn't using bWAR to make my judgement. I didn't realize that anyone actually did.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 09:15 PM) Yeah, I certainly wasn't using bWAR to make my judgement. I didn't realize that anyone actually did. Scherzer is going to win it and he should.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 10:16 PM) Scherzer is going to win it and he should. I just hope it's for the right reasons.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 5, 2013 -> 09:23 PM) I just hope it's for the right reasons. Yes, because he was the best pitcher
November 6, 201312 yr No offense to Max, he is a great pitcher but he had sooooo much fuggin run support it's not even funny. Darvish had 4 1-0 loses.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Nov 6, 2013 -> 12:49 PM) No offense to Max, he is a great pitcher but he had sooooo much fuggin run support it's not even funny. Darvish had 4 1-0 loses. As many have noted previously, this feeds back into his other numbers. A guy who has a lot of 1-0 games is going to be pushing his ERA as low as it can go and maybe even trying to pile up the strikeouts so that guys don't get on base. A guy who has a 5 run lead may say "here it is, hit it" more often to avoid piling up his pitch count and to help his bullpen out...leading to a higher ERA.
November 6, 201312 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 6, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) Yes, because he was the best pitcher Yes.....and for the right reasons.
November 6, 201312 yr They just talked about Sale on Clubhouse Confidential and brought up using all these SABR type states that Sale faced tougher opponents, pitched in tougher ballparks, and had a better K/BB ratio than Scherzer. The one guy was really high on Sale too. I'm not saying Sale deserves to win the Cy Young, but it's nice to see him get some love on MLB Network.
November 9, 201312 yr I think Max wins due to the number of wins and the fact that he is the only finalist who's team made the playoffs. And considering they only won the division by 1 game, it shows how much those wins (although an overrated stat) mattered.
November 9, 201312 yr QUOTE (wardo @ Nov 9, 2013 -> 02:55 AM) I think Max wins due to the number of wins and the fact that he is the only finalist who's team made the playoffs. And considering they only won the division by 1 game, it shows how much those wins (although an overrated stat) mattered. Welcome to Soxtalk, but you just gave the two very last things I would ever consider for a Cy Young contender.
November 10, 201312 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxFan05 @ Nov 10, 2013 -> 02:59 AM) When will the winner be revealed? I want to say it's this upcoming week, but I don't remember. MLB.com has your answer.
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