harfman77 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 12:42 PM) Serious Q in reply...why should we expect the defense and baserunning to be "cleaned up"? In many cases we have either the same guys in those positions who were bad last year, or potential downgrades (Rios down to Garcia, Davidson supposed to be pretty rough at 3b, Eaton was below average in CF last year although maybe injury and short time to blame). They're younger and that could very well raise the risk of silly mistakes even higher. Because the same guys were here the year before and we didn't have those mistakes. There were a lot of uncharacteristic things that happened last year and if the Sox can regress to their norms, that will get cleaned up. Its likely Davidson is butchering the ball in Charlotte to start the season given the roster crunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 76-77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 02:01 PM) Because the same guys were here the year before and we didn't have those mistakes. There were a lot of uncharacteristic things that happened last year and if the Sox can regress to their norms, that will get cleaned up. Its likely Davidson is butchering the ball in Charlotte to start the season given the roster crunch. I think there's a lot of truth to this. We saw this core display elite defense in 2012 and league worst in 2013 -- the "true talent" is somewhere in the middle, and while anything can happen, that is probably the most likely performance we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 10:42 AM) Serious Q in reply...why should we expect the defense and baserunning to be "cleaned up"? In many cases we have either the same guys in those positions who were bad last year, or potential downgrades (Rios down to Garcia, Davidson supposed to be pretty rough at 3b, Eaton was below average in CF last year although maybe injury and short time to blame). They're younger and that could very well raise the risk of silly mistakes even higher. It's a valid point, but given the radical swing between '12 and '13 in all of those areas, even some sort of median suckage would have to produce better results. And let's not forget Rios and the countless blunders he made on the bases. I'm hoping for more inspired play from new guys looking to make their mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 01:42 PM) Serious Q in reply...why should we expect the defense and baserunning to be "cleaned up"? In many cases we have either the same guys in those positions who were bad last year, or potential downgrades (Rios down to Garcia, Davidson supposed to be pretty rough at 3b, Eaton was below average in CF last year although maybe injury and short time to blame). They're younger and that could very well raise the risk of silly mistakes even higher. But you didn't blame players for the mistakes last year. You blamed spring training. I earlier linked an article on how the Sox were working on focus and fundamentals this spring, so using your own formula, everything should be fine in that department. There will he mistakes all year, but especially the first week of spring training games. These are all still basically practices. No one plays 9 innings or usually gets more than 3 AB. To expect someone to be perfect from the get go in practice, isn't realistic. Anyone taking a few months off from whatever they do, usually are a little rusty right when they get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'll take the over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 07:42 PM) Serious Q in reply...why should we expect the defense and baserunning to be "cleaned up"? In many cases we have either the same guys in those positions who were bad last year, or potential downgrades (Rios down to Garcia, Davidson supposed to be pretty rough at 3b, Eaton was below average in CF last year although maybe injury and short time to blame). They're younger and that could very well raise the risk of silly mistakes even higher. I took the under just because I feel like there are a lot of alarming trends that need to be corrected. Maybe the presence of Abreu will add the new life the Sox need to forget about all the blunders the team had last year to cost them games. If Robin can turn this baby around and start winning series after series, I'll be amazed and happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 1, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) I think they'll be in the Wild Card race until the last 3 or so weeks of the season. Over. That would be amazing. That would mean some of the young guys are excelling and Dunn and Viciedo and Flowers and Lexi are doing average to very well. Bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Keith Law has the Sox in fourth in the AL Central at 77-85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Apr 1, 2014 -> 08:48 AM) Keith Law has the Sox in fourth in the AL Central at 77-85. Sounds fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Apr 1, 2014 -> 08:48 AM) Keith Law has the Sox in fourth in the AL Central at 77-85. And he said we could beat .500 if things break right. That's the most optimistic prognostication I've ever read from Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Apr 1, 2014 -> 11:23 AM) And he said we could beat .500 if things break right. That's the most optimistic prognostication I've ever read from Law. Because Keith Law does not hate the White Sox, much to the chagrin of Sox fans everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 1, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) Because Keith Law does not hate the White Sox, much to the chagrin of Sox fans everywhere. He did say the Sox made a mistake signing Abreu when they signed him. He said they wouldn't be able to compete again until he was into his decline. I do think he hates KW's style more than the White Sox though. It took him a couple years before he admitted he may have been wrong about Sale. So just keep in mind if Keith Law were a White Sox executive with heavy clout, Sale and Abreu wouldn't be on the team. Everyone in professional baseball would be into their decline before the White Sox were able to compete. Edited April 1, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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