Man I'm slow.

 

 

At the very least he's competition to Surkamp and Snoddy as the 2nd LHP out of the pen.

 

Nah, man. That role is going to Danks.

My order would be:

 

Wilkins

Phegley

Carroll

Rienzo

 

Wilkins and Carroll won't be around much longer.

Wilkins and Carroll won't be around much longer.

 

It wouldn't shock me to see Carroll as the White Sox long man next year.

well, to me,Mitchell is not a proven dog, and there are some proven dogs on the 40 man

Wilkins and Carroll won't be around much longer.

 

I really couldn't disagree more with this. I think Wilkins and Carroll's 40 man spots are really quite safe. Rienzo I don't think has a lot of life left, nor does Phegley. Regarding Rienzo, I'm just not sure he's a good pitcher (but it was worth getting a look at him this year). Phegley I think can be an OK player at the MLB level but there's just not a lot of room for a player with his skillset on the Sox roster. He is a guy that might go for a guy like Raul Fernandez but who doesn't need a 40-man spot...he can throw it through a brick wall but has no idea where it's going. In a lot of ways, Phegley's situation kind of reminds me of Gillaspie in that he keeps hitting in AAA, there's no room for him at the MLB level, he's running out of options, and he's not hitting a lot at the MLB level.

 

Wilkins hits left handed and crushed the ball the second half of last year. There's no need to get rid of a player like that. He might be a pinch hitter or AAA depth and he may ultimately be a AAAA player but there's no need to get rid of a youngish guy who hit 30 homers in the minors last year. And Carroll pitched well enough that he can be counted on to be 7th starter or 9th guy out of the bullpen, or perhaps he finds a role as a swing man in the bullpen.

i like it. this is one of the pitchers i was hoping that the dodgers will use as a throw in. his last

yr era is a little deceiving, you should remember he was injured.

 

here is his profile from MILB.com

 

Scouting Grades: Fastball: 65 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 50 | Overall: 50

 

An unheralded 24th-round pick out of Southern in 2013, DeLeon signed for $35,000 and

recorded a 6.96 ERA in his pro debut before making a name for himself in his second pro

season. He was named pitcher ofthe year in the Rookie-level Pioneer League, which he

topped in strikeouts (77) and strikeouts per nine innings (12.8). He upped his whiff rate

to 16.7 in four starts at low Class A Great Lakes, where he fanned 14 in one game to

break Clayton Kershaw's single-game franchise record.

 

Threw in the low 90s at Southern and boosted his fastball into the mid-90s once he

improved his delivery and conditioning in pro ball. He also improved his slider, which now

operates in the low 80s with depth and gives him a legitimate swing-and-miss pitch.

 

Willing to throw his changeup and does a reasonable job of throwing strikes. He projects

as a starter but it remains to be seen how his stuff will hold up over an entire year in full-season

ball. At worst, his fastball and slider should make him a useful reliever.

 

he might not be dazzling now, but i would bet he will come around. nice pickup.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by LDF

2015's Leyson Septimo. Hooray!

It wouldn't shock me to see Carroll as the White Sox long man next year.

That's actually a good use of a roster spot imo.

I really couldn't disagree more with this. I think Wilkins and Carroll's 40 man spots are really quite safe. Rienzo I don't think has a lot of life left, nor does Phegley. Regarding Rienzo, I'm just not sure he's a good pitcher (but it was worth getting a look at him this year). Phegley I think can be an OK player at the MLB level but there's just not a lot of room for a player with his skillset on the Sox roster. He is a guy that might go for a guy like Raul Fernandez but who doesn't need a 40-man spot...he can throw it through a brick wall but has no idea where it's going. In a lot of ways, Phegley's situation kind of reminds me of Gillaspie in that he keeps hitting in AAA, there's no room for him at the MLB level, he's running out of options, and he's not hitting a lot at the MLB level.

 

Wilkins hits left handed and crushed the ball the second half of last year. There's no need to get rid of a player like that. He might be a pinch hitter or AAA depth and he may ultimately be a AAAA player but there's no need to get rid of a youngish guy who hit 30 homers in the minors last year. And Carroll pitched well enough that he can be counted on to be 7th starter or 9th guy out of the bullpen, or perhaps he finds a role as a swing man in the bullpen.

 

I guess I should say that's there's no way in hell they should be on our roster, but they probably will. We have a lot of s*** on the 40 man.

Nah, man. That role is going to Danks.

 

LOL. Yea, they are going to pay him what they are paying him in order to pitch 50 s***ty innings out of the pen. He'll either enter camp as the 4th starter (something went horribly wrong then) or he'll be off the team.

 

Well, one more possibility exists, and that is that he'll be the 5th starter breaking camp, and that wouldn't be half bad assuming they fixed the 3 and 4 spots.

 

I do agree with you that Wilkens and Rienzo are as good as gone. Wilkens? LMAO. Classic AAAA player. I have no idea why he hasn't already been waived. Rienzo maybe they could get a C prospect for.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by chitownsportsfan

Who is Wilkins blocking at the moment that people want him DFA'd and gone so badly?

Who is Wilkins blocking at the moment that people want him DFA'd and gone so badly?

Konerko.

Who is Wilkins blocking at the moment that people want him DFA'd and gone so badly?

 

 

Nobody right now but he's the next man for the chopping block when they make their next FA signing and/or trade. I put that odds at 90% that if they need to clear 40 man spot, he's the guy to go.

 

edit: or when they resign Kong.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by chitownsportsfan

Nobody right now but he's the next man for the chopping block when they make their next FA signing and/or trade. I put that odds at 90% that if they need to clear 40 man spot, he's the guy to go.

 

edit: or when they resign Kong.

 

oh bad if the sox pick up a player???

Nobody right now but he's the next man for the chopping block when they make their next FA signing and/or trade. I put that odds at 90% that if they need to clear 40 man spot, he's the guy to go.

 

edit: or when they resign Kong.

 

I think Phegley makes a hell of a lot more sense for that chopping block. The Sox have very little first base depth at the moment. At least as a AAAA player, Wilkins has enough talent and upside that he could get hot for a month and perhaps keep the Sox afloat. Maybe his ceiling is Garrett Jones, maybe it's lower than that, but the guy can hit the ball out of the park.

 

EDIT: Also, Raul Fernandez, Andre Rienzo, and Maikel Cleto.

I think I'm more excited that Mitchell was kicked off the 40-Man. He honestly has no business being on it and another team would have to be nuts to claim him.

I think I'm more excited that Mitchell was kicked off the 40-Man. He honestly has no business being on it and another team would have to be nuts to claim him.

 

i am sure he is a nice person, doesn't kick the neighbors dog, but that injury did hurt in other ways.

 

i hope for the best for him.

I think Phegley makes a hell of a lot more sense for that chopping block. The Sox have very little first base depth at the moment. At least as a AAAA player, Wilkins has enough talent and upside that he could get hot for a month and perhaps keep the Sox afloat. Maybe his ceiling is Garrett Jones, maybe it's lower than that, but the guy can hit the ball out of the park.

 

EDIT: Also, Raul Fernandez, Andre Rienzo, and Maikel Cleto.

 

Could be Phegley but honestly as an emergency AAAA catcher he has value. Types like Wilkins are usually floating around for non roster invites in spring, no?

 

Cleto yea, he could be gone as well.

Why Raul Fernandez is on the 40 is beyond me, he should probably be next to go with Leury close to follow.

I really couldn't disagree more with this. I think Wilkins and Carroll's 40 man spots are really quite safe. Rienzo I don't think has a lot of life left, nor does Phegley. Regarding Rienzo, I'm just not sure he's a good pitcher (but it was worth getting a look at him this year). Phegley I think can be an OK player at the MLB level but there's just not a lot of room for a player with his skillset on the Sox roster. He is a guy that might go for a guy like Raul Fernandez but who doesn't need a 40-man spot...he can throw it through a brick wall but has no idea where it's going. In a lot of ways, Phegley's situation kind of reminds me of Gillaspie in that he keeps hitting in AAA, there's no room for him at the MLB level, he's running out of options, and he's not hitting a lot at the MLB level.

 

Wilkins hits left handed and crushed the ball the second half of last year. There's no need to get rid of a player like that. He might be a pinch hitter or AAA depth and he may ultimately be a AAAA player but there's no need to get rid of a youngish guy who hit 30 homers in the minors last year. And Carroll pitched well enough that he can be counted on to be 7th starter or 9th guy out of the bullpen, or perhaps he finds a role as a swing man in the bullpen.

 

I agree that Wilkins is probably very safe on the roster, he can provide value as depth at AAA and possibly a LH bench bat to spell Abreu.

 

Carroll I am not so sure of, as he seems to be just a guy, so if they get into a roster crunch, I think he would be considered.

 

The order at which I think people will be removed from the 40 man roster:

 

1. Maikel Cleto

2. JB Shuck

3. Andre Rienzo

4. Josh Phegley

5. Scott Carroll

 

 

Ya I'd like to keep Phegley around. Not that I think he ever amounts to much but I'd like to have him around as an emergency call up if one of our catchers breaks themselves.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by Rowand44

Why Raul Fernandez is on the 40 is beyond me, he should probably be next to go with Leury close to follow.

 

Why? He has come pretty good stuff, just needs a bit of refinement, but could be a high leverage reliever in the not too distant future. A team with bullpen depth issues should not be quick to discard such an asset.

I think Phegley makes a hell of a lot more sense for that chopping block. The Sox have very little first base depth at the moment. At least as a AAAA player, Wilkins has enough talent and upside that he could get hot for a month and perhaps keep the Sox afloat. Maybe his ceiling is Garrett Jones, maybe it's lower than that, but the guy can hit the ball out of the park.

 

EDIT: Also, Raul Fernandez, Andre Rienzo, and Maikel Cleto.

 

Cleto has to be the next guy out the door, especially when another reliever is signed.

On what planet are we living on where Andy Wilkins provides value? He's a 27 year old non prospect that was absolute trash in his cup of coffee. He looked completely overwhelmed by MLB pitching. He struck out in half his 45 AB! Come on people.

Why Raul Fernandez is on the 40 is beyond me, he should probably be next to go with Leury close to follow.

 

He is a young project who throws 100.