Jump to content

Stat heads


jasonxctf
 Share

Recommended Posts

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jan 21, 2015 -> 08:48 PM)
Does anyone know... Have the sox ever started a season where their #1, 2 and 3 hitters in the lineup, all hit .300 or greater the year before?

 

Can't seem to correct the topic should be stat heads...😛

First, at least the topic isn't stat tails.

 

Back to the topic at hand:

As far as last year is concerned Baseball-reference.com has determined that the Sox had 115 different batting orders last year (117 if you count pitchers in inter-league games). The most frequently occurring player/position combinations were Adam Eaton leading off (123 time) and Jose Abreu batting 3rd (113 times). Beckham (remember him) batted in the two hole 66 times, Dunn batted clean-up 60 times and Alexei batted in the two-hole 50 times. No other players batted more than 50 times in any slot in the batting order.

 

Just for giggles I looked at Baseball-reference's batting orders page for the 1975 Cincinnati Reds—Sparky Anderson submitted 105 different line-ups, not counting pitchers, over the course of the season. Pete Rose led off in all 162 games; Ken Griffey, Sr. batted in the two-hole 86 times; and Joe Morgan batted third 119 times. I thought that Morgan batted second more frequently, but he only batted there 19 times during the season.

 

In games 1, 2, and 7 of the 1975 series, Sparky sent Rose, Morgan, and Johnny Bench to the plate #1, #2, #3. But in games 3, 4, 5, and 6, Sparky started off the line-up with Rose, Griffey, and Morgan.

 

Anyway, getting back to the Sox, in 2013, the most frequent #1, #2, and #3 hitters were Alejandro DeAza, Alexei Ramirez, and Alex Rios.

2012 DeAza (127) Youkilis (75) Dunn (145): DeAza hit .329 for the Sox in 54 games in 2011

2011 Juan Pierre (154) Alexei Ramirez (100) Paul Konerko (64): Paulie batted .312 in 2010

2010 Pierre (156) Omar Vizquel (74) Alex Rios (112): Juan Pierre batted .308 for the Dodgers in 2009

2009 Scott Podsednik (119) Ramirez (63) Jermaine Dye (83): Alexei hit .290 and JD hit .292 in 2008, close but no cigar

2008 Orlando Cabrera (128) AJ Pierzynski (83) Carlos Quentin (93): Cabrera hit .301 for the Angels in 2007

2007 Jerry Owens (83) Tadahito Iguchi (57) Jim Thome (120)

2006 Scott Podsednik (120) Tadahito Iguchi (133) Jim Thome (112): only 87 different batting orders

2005 Scott Podsednik (124) Tadahito Iguchi (129) Carl Everett (82): Iguchi batted .333 for the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks

 

That takes us to the glorious World Series. It seems like we have been lucky to have one .300 hitter entering the #1, #2, or #3 slots in the batting order in the following season.

 

So, your point that Adam Eaton (.300), Melky Cabrera (.302), Jose Abreu (.317) batting 1-2-3 is a pretty singular occurrence seems valid. And AWESOME.

 

One more:

1972 Pat Kelly (95) Mike Andrews (77) Dick Allen (123): Kelly batted .291 for the Sox, Andrews batted .282 for the Sox, and Dick Allen batted .295 for the Dodgers - all in 1971. Kelly and Andrews reverted to the mean, but Dick Allen almost carried the Sox to the AL West title single-handedly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (BigFinn @ Jan 21, 2015 -> 11:11 PM)
First, at least the topic isn't stat tails.

 

Back to the topic at hand:

As far as last year is concerned Baseball-reference.com has determined that the Sox had 115 different batting orders last year (117 if you count pitchers in inter-league games). The most frequently occurring player/position combinations were Adam Eaton leading off (123 time) and Jose Abreu batting 3rd (113 times). Beckham (remember him) batted in the two hole 66 times, Dunn batted clean-up 60 times and Alexei batted in the two-hole 50 times. No other players batted more than 50 times in any slot in the batting order.

 

Just for giggles I looked at Baseball-reference's batting orders page for the 1975 Cincinnati Reds—Sparky Anderson submitted 105 different line-ups, not counting pitchers, over the course of the season. Pete Rose led off in all 162 games; Ken Griffey, Sr. batted in the two-hole 86 times; and Joe Morgan batted third 119 times. I thought that Morgan batted second more frequently, but he only batted there 19 times during the season.

 

In games 1, 2, and 7 of the 1975 series, Sparky sent Rose, Morgan, and Johnny Bench to the plate #1, #2, #3. But in games 3, 4, 5, and 6, Sparky started off the line-up with Rose, Griffey, and Morgan.

 

Anyway, getting back to the Sox, in 2013, the most frequent #1, #2, and #3 hitters were Alejandro DeAza, Alexei Ramirez, and Alex Rios.

2012 DeAza (127) Youkilis (75) Dunn (145): DeAza hit .329 for the Sox in 54 games in 2011

2011 Juan Pierre (154) Alexei Ramirez (100) Paul Konerko (64): Paulie batted .312 in 2010

2010 Pierre (156) Omar Vizquel (74) Alex Rios (112): Juan Pierre batted .308 for the Dodgers in 2009

2009 Scott Podsednik (119) Ramirez (63) Jermaine Dye (83): Alexei hit .290 and JD hit .292 in 2008, close but no cigar

2008 Orlando Cabrera (128) AJ Pierzynski (83) Carlos Quentin (93): Cabrera hit .301 for the Angels in 2007

2007 Jerry Owens (83) Tadahito Iguchi (57) Jim Thome (120)

2006 Scott Podsednik (120) Tadahito Iguchi (133) Jim Thome (112): only 87 different batting orders

2005 Scott Podsednik (124) Tadahito Iguchi (129) Carl Everett (82): Iguchi batted .333 for the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks

 

That takes us to the glorious World Series. It seems like we have been lucky to have one .300 hitter entering the #1, #2, or #3 slots in the batting order in the following season.

 

So, your point that Adam Eaton (.300), Melky Cabrera (.302), Jose Abreu (.317) batting 1-2-3 is a pretty singular occurrence seems valid. And AWESOME.

 

One more:

1972 Pat Kelly (95) Mike Andrews (77) Dick Allen (123): Kelly batted .291 for the Sox, Andrews batted .282 for the Sox, and Dick Allen batted .295 for the Dodgers - all in 1971. Kelly and Andrews reverted to the mean, but Dick Allen almost carried the Sox to the AL West title single-handedly.

 

Winning

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...