http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12603943...n-disabled-list

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Justin Verlander (headed to DL) has had declining WAR the last 3 seasons

2014 1.1

2013 4.6

2012 7.8 – 1st among

SP 2011 8.4 – 3rd among SP

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...ching/70836706/

 

More concerning to them is Rondon's tendonitis....comeback from TJ.

 

 

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...eason/70806524/

Verlander must perform, no excuses

 

His decline was inevitable with the way Leyland rode him into the ground.

His decline was inevitable with the way Leyland rode him into the ground.

 

coupled with multiple seasons in a row going deep into the playoffs. IIRC nobody has thrown more innings than he has in the past 5 years

coupled with multiple seasons in a row going deep into the playoffs. IIRC nobody has thrown more innings than he has in the past 5 years

It's not the innings, it's the intensity of the innings he tries to throw too hard too often He is one pitcher you always read about "still throwing 98 in the 8th inning." This is the type of thing that wears a pitcher down.

In the past there have been discussions of pitchers hsving down years after long playoff runs. It's not the extra innigs, although it could be for some, it's the I tensity of the postseason innings after the grind of the regular season. It's like sprinting the last 365 yards after the first 26 miles of a marathon. The pitchers need to do it because the competition is better but it is hard on them physically.

Edited April 3, 201510 yr by ptatc

His decline was inevitable with the way Leyland rode him into the ground.

 

Most pitchers dream about what Verlander did over the course of a decade.

It's not the innings, it's the intensity of the innings he tries to throw too hard too often He is one pitcher you always read about "still throwing 98 in the 8th inning." This is the type of thing that wears a pitcher down.

In the past there have been discussions of pitchers hsving down years after long playoff runs. It's not the extra innigs, although it could be for some, it's the I tensity of the postseason innings after the grind of the regular season. It's like sprinting the last 365 yards after the first 26 miles of a marathon. The pitchers need to do it because the competition is better but it is hard on them physically.

Actually, in the last few seasons, he has started pacing himself more. He'll throw low 90's until he's either in a high-leverage situation early, or he's deeper in the game.

It's not the innings, it's the intensity of the innings he tries to throw too hard too often He is one pitcher you always read about "still throwing 98 in the 8th inning." This is the type of thing that wears a pitcher down.

In the past there have been discussions of pitchers hsving down years after long playoff runs. It's not the extra innigs, although it could be for some, it's the I tensity of the postseason innings after the grind of the regular season. It's like sprinting the last 365 yards after the first 26 miles of a marathon. The pitchers need to do it because the competition is better but it is hard on them physically.

 

and i agree with you on the most part. btw, i know i would be really foolish in discussing medical ideology with you pertaining to pitchers, so i will say, i took him to be another freak of nature, pretty much like Randy Johnson. didn't threw constantly hard in almost all games until he retired?

 

then there are other pitchers who will need surgery b/c their arm can't take that strain.

Actually, in the last few seasons, he has started pacing himself more. He'll throw low 90's until he's either in a high-leverage situation early, or he's deeper in the game.

This has only been the last couple. How many years was it before though? I know it's still not a common thought but I still think this overthrowing is the primary cause of elbow issues.