April 21, 20169 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) Sox had 15k in the house Monday Night for a 1st place team. I'm pretty sure the rebuild crowds would be similar. Kids in school and in April where advance sales are historically low.
April 21, 20169 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) Even with the presence of Sale (Trout for the Angels games), Abreu, etc., it hasn't meant much because of the team simply not winning and/or playing entertaining AND sound baseball for three years now. We're 27th in the majors in attendance at this point. The only teams behind are OAK, CLE and TB. Two of those are teams with stadium issues, one a team which had the longest streak of consecutive sellouts at Jacobs Field but has simply never recovered from two complete sell-offs/rebuilds and another factor was CLE being hard-hit by the 2008-2009 financial crisis. CLE drawing 9,890 instead of the White Sox or Reds (today's crowds) drawing about 3,000 more is around the worst-case scenario...and then you have the stadium lease agreement which has a controversial clause subsidizing attendance if it falls below a certain amount, can't remember if it's 1.2 or 1.4 million. As of this exact moment, we're in first place by 1/2 game over KC and 1 game over the Tigers, with Cleveland trudging along around .500. The sox get free rent if attendance falls below 1.2 million. They haven't hit that in the new park. And last year saw an attendance increase from 2014. I'm not sure why that would be an issue for a club that makes its 125 million dollar payroll simply with tv money.
April 21, 20169 yr QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 07:45 AM) The sox get free rent if attendance falls below 1.2 million. They haven't hit that in the new park. And last year saw an attendance increase from 2014. I'm not sure why that would be an issue for a club that makes its 125 million dollar payroll simply with tv money. Because that 3,000 extra in attendance per game is going to provide them the additional $9 million (+$13 million saved on LaRoche) that it's going to take to afford a Carlos Gonzalez or Jay Bruce. https://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensa...cago-white-sox/ The White Sox are at $114.5 million, KC at $131.5 million and the Tigers at $198.5 million, fwiw.
April 21, 20169 yr QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:41 AM) Kids in school and in April where advance sales are historically low. It's a Chicago team in 1st place. There should be a bigger crowd than that. Rodon was pitching, it was a nice night, and the Sox are in 1st place.
April 21, 20169 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) It's a Chicago team in 1st place. There should be a bigger crowd than that. Rodon was pitching, it was a nice night, and the Sox are in 1st place. Sox fans didn't show up in September of 2012 for a first place team. They sure aren't going to show up in April.
April 21, 20169 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 08:54 AM) Because that 3,000 extra in attendance per game is going to provide them the additional $9 million (+$13 million saved on LaRoche) that it's going to take to afford a Carlos Gonzalez or Jay Bruce. https://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensa...cago-white-sox/ The White Sox are at $114.5 million, KC at $131.5 million and the Tigers at $198.5 million, fwiw. You're not going to get that in April weekday games, regardless of start time. The hot start will show dividends in June and July. The key is advance sales. And the sox had a BUDGETED payroll of 125 million. The laroche money was already slotted in the figures.
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