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  1. Farmer is not and never will be a good PBP announcer. When he was paired with John Rooney I thought they made an excellent team. In fact IIRC they were very highly rated in the Sox Championship year 2005. I'm still mad that the Sox let John Rooney go, he was my all time favorite Sox announcer and I can remember all the way back to Bob Elson.
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    Minnie Minoso for Hall of Fame

    Billy Pierce is also my all time favorite White Sox player. I got a chance to meet him in 1999 at the ball park. He was intelligent, witty and a gentleman in every way. After our meeting I almost floated back to my seat. I never saw a left handed pitcher with such perfect mechanics, the way he would rock back and get every ounce of leg and arm motion that his small frame would allow, maximum effort with minimum strain. I doubt that the White Sox ever had a player more beloved than Minnie Minoso. I remember as a kid buying a pack of baseball cards at the drug store in my neighborhood. As I turned the corner and looked over my new cards I noticed that Minnie Minoso was in the bunch. "I got Minnie Minoso!" I yelled loud enough for the whole neighborhood to hear. The way both players were treated by HOF voters was both a sham and a shame. Imagine pitchers like Harvey Haddix or Don Larsen getting more votes than Billy Pierce. Or Alvin Dark, Phil Cavaretta and Mickey Vernon out polling Minnie who was getting all of 1.8% of the vote in 1969. What a joke baseball HOF voting can be at times. If you are slavish in your devotion to WAR, SABER, Analytics and the whole new stats thing, as the vast majority of fans on sites like this seem to be then I would suggest taking a much closer look at more than just the raw numbers. Minnie accumulated his 50.5 WAR in just 6579 ABs. Billy Pierce was in the top ten for so many categories for many years. 5 times in the top 10 WAR for all players, 7 times for pitchers including twice at number 1. At or near the top in such stat geek loving categories as WPA and WPA/LI for many years. The lords of analytics were passing out WAR points stingily for 1950s players. If you love WAR you also need to look at how many years a player is in the top 5 or 10 percent of his peers. The stars of Billy and Minnie will shine much brighter if you do that. If Catfish Hunter is worthy of the HOF then dammit so is Billy. If Heinie Manush is enshrined then why not Minnie? I could give more examples but this is already too long.
  3. Thank you. Not the only pointless or at least highly flawed newer stat.
  4. Belle, great player and a bigger jerk. Reinsdorf signed him IMO to flip off the owners, or at least those he thought were throwing around too much money. His signing did not lead to anything special for the Sox. Even if I get a lot of thumbs down I think this is veering from the course. Up until very recently the thought of signing free agents was mostly rebuked in favor of letting all that great young talent develop. Then and only then signing free agents was to be the cherry on top. I also believe that Machado is going to press hard to be a regular SS, which I don't believe is his best position. The rebuild is not going well. The first wave of talent has not come close to meeting expectations and the luck factor was very bad with all the injuries, including Kopech and those down on the farm. Whatever. Not popular views I'm sure but if Greg can take the heat he gets so can I. Also I'm not convinced the Sox are going to sign Manny. I think the market is softer than he was lead to believe and he is biding his time waiting for someone to break and make him that blockbuster offer he thought would be there. In the meantime everything looks like a solid mess, http://www.philly.com/phillies/manny-machado-white-sox-phillies-espn-buster-onley-usa-today-bob-nightengale-dan-lozano-20190117.html
  5. Whatever happened to the rebuild? If you weren't on board with it you generally got ripped. If you're not for signing MM you don't gain much favor for that either. So what happened to the rebuild? My guess and that's all it is, leads me to believe that they realize their rebuild is not going well. In which case they wouldn't be wrong. As for MM, as talented as he is to me it looks like Albert Belle Part II. As for the signings Alonso is meh OK and Jay is not. I'm not doing cartwheels over all of this.
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    I could not possibly agree more.
  7. QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) Not ripping you, but I'd be shocked if any lead announcer would be beloved. It seems to me most of them suck. They have announcer voices and not conversational like Hawk and Harry. I think Bennetti is good cause he's at least conversational. Hardly any do that. They have the nasal announcer voice. Keep Benneti forever. Hawk will quit soon enough. All road games for a team that is going to lose an unprecedented amount of road games the next 3-4 seasons. I mean a rebuilding team on the road? That can't be fun to announce a batch of 8-1 losses and 12-3 losses. Hawk will be gone very soon if we keep making rebuilding trades. Most of the modern day baseball announcers are painfully awful. Benetti has that cookie cutter "professional" announcer's voice although he is obviously bright and quick witted. However I found that schtick he had going with Stone to be very tiresome quite early on. As for Hawk, I think as long as JR owns the team he will have a job if he wants it. I have watched and listened to as much White Sox baseball as possible since early childhood but this year is going to be tough on every level I think.
  8. Moncada will not equal Trout, Kopech needs a lot of work and the other two guys look like filler at best to me. Wonderful.
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    Price rising for Sale and Q

    QUOTE (gatnom @ Oct 10, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) He was a 4.9 WAR player last year (to Sale's 5.2) and is under control for 1 more year. I agree he's less valuable, but it's closer than you think. So I guess we should trade Sale for Bradley and any other player with 0.4 WAR and be ahead of the game. If the other player has a 2.0 WAR then it's a steal.
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    Misc. Sox Quotes & Tweets

    QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 21, 2016 -> 02:24 AM) Try that attitude out here. https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan If you are reasonably well versed in history you will find yourself often wanting to bang your head against the wall. There are numerous errors put out there on various sites on a regular basis. They almost always go unchallenged because hardly anyone knows what information is factually correct and what is not. It is true that Jim Landis did not become a member of the White Sox until 1957 and a cursory look at his record shows he never had 19 outfield assists, although this old Sox fan will tell you he was a good defensive center fielder regardless of what his DWAR is listed. Minnie Minoso was perhaps the most exciting White Sox player ever and a definite fan favorite. It looks like 1955 is the year that both he and "Jungle" Jim Rivera had 19 outfield assists. I say this with no attitude towards you. The original tweeter should have been more careful.
  11. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 30, 2016 -> 11:36 PM) The bandwagon filled up in 1984' Harry's 3rd season, and their attendance didn't top the Sox until 1985 after Sportvision was sold.. Besides the Sox exclusively on WGN wasn't going to happen. There would have been too many scheduling conflicts and WGN was owned by the same people who owned the Cubs. It is cute to say the Sox got rid of Harry but they did offer him a deal, and reports say more money than WGN. Not exactly a firing. And Harry has been dead over 18 years. Many of the people in the stands probably never remember him calling a game. Harry left because of SportsVision. He compared the number of viewers he would have there with the national power that WGN was. Don't forget that in the midst of the champagne soaked celebration when the Sox clinched in 1983. instead of just enjoying the euphoria of the moment Jerry Reinsdorf had to take time out to insult Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall. So believe it, the Sox did no hand wringing when Harry Caray declined their offer and signed with the Cubs.
  12. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2016 -> 05:29 PM) Except the White Sox leanest attendance years happened while Carry was still here. Harry wasn't broadcasting for the Sox from 1968-70. Compared to attendance before him and losing records the Sox had most seasons he was there, you could make the case that Harry was a definite plus as far as attendance goes. I remember the era well and I can tell you that Harry and later Harry and Jimmy Piersall kept interest in the team as high as possible, considering the ineptitude on the field.
  13. The 1962 Mets could have had TWTW in abundance and all it would have done for them is maybe added a couple of wins over the course of their epically bad season. Obviously you have to have talent to win, that is first and foremost. That being said the Sox far too often play as flat and passionless as their manager. Abrue is absolutely right and no Adam Eaton is not part of this problem.
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    Season in Review: Charlotte Knights

    Thanks for the in depth recap. Too bad the Sox are still a little light on talent down on the farm.
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    Thoughts out to KyYlE23

    Very sorry. Especially sorry that I didn't know how dire the situation was.