southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) I have a lot of trouble understanding this comment... How exactly is it that you can't imagine what it has to be like for Londoners right now? Both nations have suffered their fare share of terrorism. Londoners have probably seen more bombings, while the U.S. has seen more devastating attacks. It isn't that complex. I can't understand it. I have never been through a terrorist attack, nor seen a potential terrorist base raided in my hometown. I have never seen a train in Chicago bombed, or a CTA bus bombed, and I have never seen dead bodies and the panic of an attack up close. How could I understand it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 http://sg.news.yahoo.com/050712/1/3tflw.html The first arrests have been made in Britian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 QUOTE(DePloderer @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 08:24 AM) Admin, I'm still looking for the Union Jack smilie! Its been added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Al Quada has said many times before that they are incapable of beating the militaries of the west on the field of battle so their goal is to try to damage them so badly economically that they can no longer carry on the fight. The goal of these attacks is to do economic damage, no more, no less and they have failed miserably. The stock markets of the US have roared to nearly 4 year highs since the lows set Thursday morning and the FTSE in Britain is also higher than where it was pre-attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DePloderer Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 12, 2005 -> 08:02 PM) Its been added TY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 And here is the ugly side of something like this. A group of British kids beat a Pakistani to death, in what was called a case of "Islamaphobia". http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,...1527288,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 There's a definite history to poor treatment of Pakistanis in British society. It's even been the focus of recent British literature. Like "The Black Album" by Hanif Kureishi. And now that they're pretty sure that the bombers were Pakistani, it probably will only get worse. I've often what makes the change happen from terror and fighting to rapprochement and normalization of relations. In Northern Ireland, the UK certainly didn't break the back of the IRA for example - yet over time, the fight kind of withered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) God I can't stand it when people completely ignore the facts in order to brand Spain as cowardly against the Terrorists because they got out of Bush's little debacle in Iraq. The traditional Republican "Fact-less" narrative on the Spanish elections is that only Aznar's pro-Bush party would protect them, and electing the other party is a cave in to the terrorists because of the bombings. Let's look at the actual facts. 1. The polls in the Spanish election were incredibly close leading up to the election. The last official polling was done a week beforehand, and the polls basically were within the margin of error. There were even some polls showing the Socialists pulling ahead before the bombings. 2. After the election...people did exit polls, just like they do in this country. Do you know what the most common reason given for why new people turned out or why people switched their votes was? It wasn't to get out of Iraq, or to cower before Al Qaeda. It was that the Aznar government had immediately tried to jump to the conclusion that it was done by ETA and literally tried to cover up evidence that it was an Al Qaeda strike until after the election. Unlike this country...it seems that the Spaniards actually mind it when their leaders openly lie. 3. Here's the biggest one...when Spain pulled those troops out of Iraq, guess what the next move they made with their army was...they took a good chunk of the troops they pulled out of Bush's war in Iraq and pushed them into Afghanistan. You remember Afghanistan...the country that was actually harboring the people who attacked us? You argue that Spain surrendered to the terrorists. How exactly is it a surrender to the terrorists to put troops into the place where Osama Bin Laden (Remember him?) actually was based. By focusing on the words "caved in to" and writing a big spiel about those three words, you missed or chose to ignore the main point. While your head is buried in the sand, Al Qaeda will be looking to stick a bomb up your ever exposed ass. Have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Details are starting to emerge about the suicide bombers who perpetrated these attacks. This one was only 18 years old http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article299086.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 09:13 AM) Details are starting to emerge about the suicide bombers who perpetrated these attacks. This one was only 18 years old http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article299086.ece Yeah, they really seemed like ordinary, if not positive kids. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/15...acks/index.html A chemist is being held in connection for with the bombings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 QUOTE(winodj @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) There's a definite history to poor treatment of Pakistanis in British society. It's even been the focus of recent British literature. Like "The Black Album" by Hanif Kureishi. In the neither here nor there department... The 'Black Album' Kureishi takes his title from is of course the unreleased/heavily bootlegged Prince album that was supposed to be the follow up to Lovesexy. (it was officially released as a limited edition CD several years later.) Curiously there is another tie-in, albeit probably coincidental. The Black Album is also the name of a coveted 3-LP Beatles bootleg containing material from the Get Back sessions (the stuff that eventually came out on Let it Be). The album has a couple early working versions of the song that eventually became Get Back, only then it was called "No Pakistanis". Kinda gives the line "get back to where you once belonged" a whole new meaning, huh? And as vitriolic as that sentiment is, you'd think it was a John song and not a paul song: ...don't dig no Pakistani's taking all the people's jobs. Oh, get back! Get Back! Oh, get back to where you once belonged... But in point of fact, Paul has insisted that the song was meant to be social satire and not racism. [/threadjack] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Magical Mystery Tour wasn't Paul's idea either, unless you ask everyone else associated with the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 QUOTE(winodj @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) Magical Mystery Tour wasn't Paul's idea either, unless you ask everyone else associated with the project. That dubious venture was all Paul, all the way. Not that Two Virgins or Life With the Lions were gems either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) That dubious venture was all Paul, all the way. Not that Two Virgins or Life With the Lions were gems either... At least Lennon went solo with his disasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 The guy they arrested had 16 unexploded devices in the trunk of his car. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/LondonBlasts/story?id=979905 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 09:53 AM) The guy they arrested had 16 unexploded devices in the trunk of his car. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/LondonBlasts/story?id=979905 Cop: "So, um.. sir...We happened to notice that you have numerous explosive devices in your trunk, can you explain them?" Terrorist Bastard: "I use them for fishing." Edited July 28, 2005 by knightni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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