WestEddy

I don't think it's spring training numbers, I think it's about how healthy he looks.

I have no idea if this guy has any contacts, whatsoever...

It's kind of like Tim Elko. He's hit everywhere he's been. But he has alarming strikeout rates for the minor leagues. The Sox aren't cutting him because of that because he is a prospect, and he's hit at every level. But nobody really considered Elko a primo 1B prospect because of the Ks. The reports I posted about Canario say he's not good at pitch recognition, weak at the bottom of the zone. There's also the alarmingly low contact rates at AAA that will take a bigger hit in the bigs. Baseball teams know what they can work with for the upside. Keith Law has been a major league scout and thinks Canario tops out as a weak side platoon who will strike out a ton and hit a bunch of HRs. I never saw the big deal about guys like Joey Gallo or Mark Reynolds. If everything goes perfectly, they lead the league in Ks, hit 30 HRs, and give you maybe 3 wins. If anything is off, they're practically replacement level. (Gallo's a good fielder, Reynolds wasn't.)

Am I obligated to rant because I reacted favorably to his availability?

Baseball teams don't really go off of fan scouting sites' reports. Canario profiles as the short side of an OF platoon that will be missing the BBs part of "3 true outcomes". The Mets had an open spot on their 40-man and stowed him. I wouldn't say he has no chance but correcting that part of his game doesn't happen instantly, and most often, not at the major league level. Just a simple perusal of online reports can give a hint why the Sox and 28 other teams took a pass on him.

Can you explain what you're expecting during a rebuild? Twelve 23-year-old, standing All-Stars? I'm not sure what your beef is.

I'm referring to the players you can find just by looking on RosterResource on FanGraphs. Here's who they've started at 2B/SS/3B each "scheduled" game this spring. 2/22 - Meidroth / Monty / Vargas 2/23 - Rojas / Amaya / Sosa 2/24 - Gray / Meidroth / Vargas 2/25 - Sosa / Monty / Rojas 2/26 - Meidroth / Amaya / Vargas 2/27 - Rojas / Gray / Sosa 2/28 - Baldwin / Amaya / Vargas 3/01 - Sosa / Meidroth / Rojas 3/02 - Baldwin / Amaya / Vargas 3/03 - Rojas / Meidroth / Drury

He also did that with a .476 BABIP. When major league pitchers adjust to him, his numbers will drop precipitously.

But they "dumped" them by DFAing them the first time. DeLoach isn't on the 40-man, and Amaya is shortstop depth during spring training, where they still play 4+ middle infielders every day. Teams shouldn't be cutting players just because they can.

No, you don't. We do have many starting options, more than the traditional 5 per minor league level. As you have noted, some will work from the bullpen, and injuries will occur. However, you don't need just 8 bullpen arms for the season. Some will fail out, injuries will occur, and then there's the trade deadline.

You don't need me to spend my time typing out a list of names you could just go look up. If you think the White Sox have no young options to play the infield, I'm not sure what you're following.

MLB.com just published their top 30 White Sox list, also. No real surprises. Colson Montgomery at #4. White Sox Top Prospects

Where in the world do you get this from? They've actually assembled a reasonable looking pitching staff. They're spoiled for choice at 3 IF positions.

And they do keep adding players with a future with the organization. If they're going to take on serious rehab projects like Canario, they might as well just work with the guys they've already laid a foundation with in DeLoach, Fletcher and Colas. You're the guy who hates panic, right? DFAing Colas for a bigger project would be that.

Why would the White Sox do that? They have pretty much the same statistical profile in Tauchman for about 1/20th of the cost.

If this is truly the case, then I look forward to never having to hear about how a 41-121 record is the reason for any argumentative stance. Here's Paul Janish in a SoxMachine interview published this morning: "Fixing swing-and-miss or fixing a chase rate, those things are hard and they don’t typically happen overnight." You're committing an OF spot to helping a player fix his swing-and-miss problems in the majors. Maybe they can get Zach Collins back and work on his swing some more, since 100 loss seasons don't matter.

Nobody expects Slater to be around for 6 years. He's here to fill a hole for 4 months, 6 tops. I've presented multiple scouting write-ups that say Canario has a big swing and miss problem and contacts rates that will not play in the bigs. The response seems to be that he's 24, and must start until another 24-year-old comes available on the waiver wire.

I would think that if you're going to post over and over and over that Canario is the answer to everything that ails the South Side, yes, the onus is on you to present any evidence that Canario is a breakthrough candidate. I've posted multiple scouting reports noting that Canario has a big swing and miss problem. Contact rates that will not play in the majors. In his 45 PA in the majors, he has a BABIP of about .450. That is not sustainable, by any means. These are clear reasons why 29 other teams took a pass on rostering him on the pro squad. You ignore this, and since it won't happen, it's a new cudgel you get to beat everyone over the head with regularly. If Canario gets a shot with the Mets and fails miserably, you will reason that you don't have to make sense because you're not a GM. When presented with the notion that Getz has looked at all the data not available to you (here's your quote on that - "Getz and his team have way more access to data on players than we do and it’s their job to pick the right ones, not yours or mine.'), you then proclaim that nothing Getz "thinks" should matter. You just want your way. The onus is on you to at least make sense, and answer the reasons laid out to quell your confusion with something clearer than the regular sports talk mumbo jumbo.

These are great. Thanks.

It's like the 7 other times people explained to you why Canario doesn't make sense for the Sox never happened. LOL. We're probably starting 3 players with less than a full season's service time on offense. You're going to have 3 pitchers with similar service time in the rotation. Fangraphs also guestimates 5-7 rookie/pre-arb pitchers in the bullpen. It makes total sense to anchor a couple of positions with seasoned veterans when most of the rest of your roster is going to be rookies. He's an interesting prospect. The Sox probably looked at him, and either didn't like the profile, or felt they weren't in a position to help him pick up his contact rate or cut down on the strike outs. And if Canario sucks, you will be screaming at the entire board about how Getz made another mistake. Go back and read the prospect reports on Canario. Here's a refresher from Fangraphs: "Canario’s swing-and-miss issues give us substantial pause when it comes to projecting his role. His tendency to misidentify sliders against righty pitchers destabilizes his entire profile and is probably going to limit his role to the short side of a platoon where he’s mostly facing lefties. He’s best at hitting hanging breakers and spraying high fastballs the opposite way. A stiff lower half makes it tough for Canario to bend and do damage in the bottom of the zone" Keith Law wrote: He’s got big power, with 37 homers in 2022 and strong exit velocities to back it up, with a lot of swing and miss. He wants the fastball, and swings hard, leaving him vulnerable to anything that isn’t a fastball. It’s corner outfield, with the plus arm for right but limited range, and if he plays every day it might be 30 homers with a .290 OBP or less. That’s not really a regular, but someone teams will keep taking fliers on. Northsidebaseball wrote: The hard-hitting outfield prospect, Alexander Canario, is in a very weird position in the Cubs' organization. On the surface, Canario had a pretty good year in Iowa, hitting 18 home runs in under 300 plate appearances while posting an isolated slugging over .270 and an overall line good for 116 wRC+. However, a longer look at the righty gives you some pause as to what he can be moving forward. Canario's sub 63% contact rate was nearly 10% below that of the Triple-A average, and if he carried over the same contact rate to the MLB (which, considering the jump in talent, would be hard to do), would put him below every qualified hitter at the level. The results at Iowa suggest one thing, but the processes suggest another. FutureStarsSeries wrote: Canario has produced better batting averages and on-base marks than his contact rates suggest are repeatable, but he did it again in Triple-A last year once he got healthy.

So, we should pick up Canario, and start him for the next 6 seasons, regardless of what he hits? Makes sense.

Every pitch he throws makes that trade return look better.

And being only 23-years-old makes Iriarte more valuable than Dylan Cease or anybody over 28.

Truest outcome for Gallo. I have no curiosity for him as DH.

Gameday makes it look like Iriarte's throwing a bird at home plate, and it just takes off for a dugout.