WestEddy

#4 The Pirates:

#5 The Rays.

I think we all recognize that this team wasn't going to compete during Crochet's arb-time here. Therefore, a trade looked like a clear path to goosing the current rebuild. In the initial analysis of the return, it does look like Getz got back two impact prospects in Teel and Monty, a serviceable player in Meidroth, and a possible bullpen piece in Wikelman. So, in grading this particular season, Getz did what was required and didn't cause consternation with the horrible return. As far as a long term grade, obviously, Crochet, Monty and Teel have their entire careers in front of them and it really can't be judged until we see how these guys turn out.

"We're Self-Actualized"

Yeah, these rookies had a new set of coaches at each level. I don't think they're adjusting to anything.

This is what you stated: "That said, Braden and Bonemer were the only position players that seemed to make big-time progress." Antonacci - hit tool. Perez seems to have tapped into some game power.

Yes. 50+ years. Feel how you want, and I'll feel how I want. There is no "problem" in what I'm expecting or wishing and hoping for. There is an entire realm of possibilities for next season and beyond that stretches from negative to positive. The positive isn't exclusively fanciful, and the negative isn't exclusively sage.

Sam Antonacci played across 3 levels in his season and a half in our system. He out-OPSed Braden Montgomery at AA at the same age. Jeral Perez had a season, also.

Miguel Vargas is one player. As players adjust to the bigs, they either get better, or younger players bump them. I understand being glum about White Sox prospects. It's kind of unreasonable to expect every Sox fan to be negative about every aspect of every player's games.

So then you proceed to bow at the gospel of listicles. #18 had us gasping!! Improving communication, processes, and information gathering is the wrong direction? Your argument is always "there is no reason to be positive". Can you help me understand why, then, you feel the need to mock the people who do feel positive? When you challenge people to explain themselves and they do, you break it down to getting data earlier, wearing belts and buying a camera? Dude, you're a troll, and not even an interesting one.

Vargas got dinged a bit switching back and forth between 1B and 3B. I believe his bat plays better at 3B, his mitt at 1B. He seems like a gamer, and coachable. If he picks his 3B defense up a bit and irons out the rough offensive patches, I don't see an issue jumping from 1.8 bWAR to an average-above-average producer.

Quero was worth 1.2 bWAR. Baseball Prospectus had Quero near the bottom in catching defense with an overall -9.1 runs saved. Teel ranked for favorably, with 1.2 runs saved. They like his framing. Quero gets dinged mostly for his framing.

But the only thing that seems to come from inside was that Thames felt threatened by Gellinger's presence. The fact that Venable had to step in and redirect the greater hitting focus after the All-Star break is indictment enough of Thames for me. Every manager's going to want to bring in their own guys, and the White Sox have picked their coaches independent from the manager's preference. Looks like Getz is changing that.

Thanks for the background, but this sounds like the grousing of somebody who just didn't like Katz. The only negative detail provided on Katz was that he had a nickname. Also, is "Former MLB executive" Rick Hahn?

I believe I just read the most ridiculous line written here in the last year. Somebody questioned the value of having data three days earlier back in July, and this tops that plenty.

It's ludicrous that you haven't even voted, yet, and are criticizing everybody else's choices. Voting is scary.

That ranking did come out in late July when Getz was, indeed, the director of development. Is there a lie in there I'm supposed to find?

Getz hasn't been in the Sox org for a decade. I always find it weird when you guys insist that Getz was running the White Sox front office, even while playing 2B for the Blue Jays, or while he was assistant to player development for the Royals.

He better hurry up, then. Bochy is out in Texas. Bruce Bochy Will Not Return As Rangers Manager In 2026 - MLB Trade Rumors

I guess that's why real GMs base their decisions on actual scouting and not listicle rankings. I suppose if Mayer or Campbell got into our system, Getz could have fixed them, too.

I thought I was being too exuberant in the bold predictions thread when I said 60 wins, so they exceeded my expectations. B. There seems to be a seriousness under Getz, and he lacks the Hahn-descension of the previous two GMs. I like how they handled Vargas and Colson, turning their seasons around. Crochet trade? Some here still complain we didn't get Kristian Campbell and Marcelo Mayer, and we'd be horrified with their output on this year's White Sox.

I have faith that Getz wouldn't run his own version of Gordon Beckham out there 5 years in a row.