WestEddy

I'm not claiming he knew. You are. And it's not even an excuse. Those 3 players actually got injured, and then didn't play in games for long periods of time. The Sox weren't a competitive team. You don't get to sweep away the actual *fact* that Eloy, Yoan and Robert were injured and couldn't play by saying Getz "should have known". As I just posted to WS2023, they either could have loaded up with offensive players at the other positions to absorb their absence, players we don't even know were available to them on the FA market, or should have had better players in reserve to replace them. If they had better players in reserve, those players would be starting. It seems to me that you are claiming that if Yoan, Eloy and Robert never got injured and played every game, AND if Vaughn and Benintendi magically turned it around and OPSed a passable .700+ and played good defense, they would still be losing an historic amount of games, just because.

Nobody ever said that "Getz didn't know these three were injury prone". That's a ludicrous strawman. When your three main offensive players all go down at the same time with injury, that's a setback, regardless of whether somebody "could have known" or not. Knowing doesn't magically make them well and put them back on the field. If they had better players in reserve, those better players would be starting over the injury prone. I seriously don't understand what's so hard to understand about that. It's argumentative to try to take that "excuse" off the table by saying he "should have known". The only ways to have prevented those three injuries from derailing the plan of "just kind of bad" was to either load up the 4 open positions with the best players available, either by trade or free agency, or to just cut Robert, Yoan, Eloy, Benintendi and Vaughn, and again, then go out and replace them. And we don't even know if the first option was possible, given payroll restrictions, the Sox' reputation, and that players signing a contract would be looking at playing during an obvious rebuild. You don't know what players were available in trade or FA, and seeing that it took until the season started for them to finally sign Pham and Clevinger says to me that anybody was holding out for a better offer from anyone.

The bizarre narrative is that Chris Getz didn't realize that players could get injured. To me, that's the most bizarre strawman of all time. 3 key players were injured, 2 other key players crashed and burned. Saying Getz "should have known" is the most bizarre strawman of all time. "Knowing" doesn't change the fact that 3 guys got injured, and 2 others produced zeroes. Competitive teams often don't recover from that. The Sox weren't built to be competitive.

The plan was to lose more than they won while upgrading the positions that were open. The plan became a disaster when 3 veterans got injured by the 11th game, and two other veterans OPSed under .400 for over a month. We all keep forgetting to mention that. He did upgrade SS and 2B. There's no debate on that. The RF tandem fell apart when they became the CF tandem. Maldonado was a sop to Grifol to help him control the clubhouse. I'm guessing Lee is an upgrade from Zavala and Grandal. He inherited the other 4 positions. His 2 best defensive fielders were out most of the season, and LF and 1B regressed. Boo, Getz. Again, nobody will even care by May of next year.

That logic only works if you imagine Getz rubbing his hands together, and circling a date on the calendar in early April that he knew his 3 top hitters would all be on the IL, and that he also knew his 4th and 5th best hitters would go on abysmal slumps that would last into June. We all knew it would be a rebuilding year. The team seemed reasonably bad. It's funny the pushback I get for pointing out that they finally stopped getting shut out once a series, while everyone is throwing catered parties over low attendance, and worst 81 game start in team history. "In your face, .... not-haters!!!!" Hey, look on the bright side. This tank is so egregious, maybe it forces some rule changes on roster construction.

Point stands.

Plus, they're giving this away to the first 10000 fans

Even if that comes to be, the year after, nobody will care. Can you give me Houston Metropolitan suicide statistics during the Astros run of futility when they tanked? I'm paying attention because I'm "old", and slightly "infirmed" in my retirement, this summer. What's your excuse?

You probably want to reword that to make it make sense. I'll wait here while you guys figure out that setting records for futility aren't World Series victories, either. Around May 1st next year, nobody on Earth will care. But hey, what are the odds of breaking the run differential record? Can somebody update me if Nicky Lopez still has the lowest RBI of a 2B after 81 games? I'm intrigued. LOL.

Maybe the Sun-Times should have newspapered better, so they could have kept their building on the river, and I wouldn't have to see Trump's name emblazoned on the focal point of the river as I drive on Lake Shore Drive.

I guess since he came off the IL, he's OPSing a pedestrian .723, and maybe somebody would fall for that? He would just need to go on a tear for a few weeks.

I'm liking Dombrowski paying retail for Robert, just to get him.

I'm now intrigued for getting anybody for Eloy and his buyout money, just to free up the at-bats.

Sox Notes at SoxMachine: https://soxmachine.com/2024/06/pregame-notes-garrett-crochet-might-have-already-thrown-his-longest-start-of-2024/ TLDR: * Cannon rules out tipping * Benintendi probably looking at platoon * Flexen owns Ohtani

I just feel the Sox are always winners.

I just get nervous. OCD and anxiety.

Please let me know if I'm taking this away from anyone. lineups 2nd City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alumni_of_the_Second_City Groundlings https://groundlings.com/performers/alumni

Wow, it's possible for a manager to not have the answers, and still inspire confidence with his words: ⁦@FutureSox⁩ pic.twitter.com/7kb07PJrkv

Or Keuchel's paying to hang out and talk baseball.

Keuchel was for cash considerations.

Ryan Ripken has a YouTube channel. Doesn't really talk about what he can bring back, but generally talks up Fedde's case as a top trade target