WestEddy

Terrify? I believe you're becoming hysterical.

You can stop taking wild guesses at what I think anytime you're ready. You complain about my posting, I'm guessing because you read it, yet it still hasn't sunk in, yet, that I don't think Getz planned on a 120+ loss season. This entire discussion erupts once a week in one string, or another. Yet, there's always the guy who is flabbergasted that "I think Getz was planning a World Series parade" by signing Maldonado, DeJong, Flexen, and trading for Soroka and Lopez. You seem angry. Perhaps you should deal with your anger issues separate from your problem with projection. Here's what I actually think: 1) Getz thought this team would be merely bad. 2) 3 injuries and multiple key slumps shot this team through the floor. 3) The rotation and bullpen were thrown together to find players to flip, with effectiveness a secondary concern. 4) It's foolish to think that ~$12m spent on Fedde, Flexen and Soroka is wasted money. It was throwing multiple arms at the wall to see if one popped, then trade him. It worked. $12m for about 4WAR at mid-point is an incredible deal. 5) win-loss record no longer matters at this point. Nobody actively frets about the 2003 Tigers, or the rebuilding Astros who lost over 110 3 years in a row. The Astros were even an internet meme, with how bad they were. I don't see videos of White Sox players stumbling over each other all over Twitter. So respond or not, it doesn't matter. You're not having an argument with me. You seem to be screaming at made up people who are saying things you made up. Have fun with that.

I'll just keep copying and posting this until it sinks in for you: Getz did acquire Lopez and he did sign Maldonado, so I'm not sure why I need to "blame" him. I didn't like the Maldy signing; I still don't. I can 'not like' it and understand why he did it - at the same time. What I don't understand is why you try to make people on this site repeat the same things over and over and over. We all surmise that Reinsdorf wouldn't let Getz fire Grifol, just yet. Grifol is a weak manager, and wanted a clubhouse presence to help him keep the team under control. It's dumb, but there's an easily acceptable reason. I'm pretty sure a lifetime baseball guy isn't looking at Maldy's .080 BA, and thinking that's productive. I would also be sure that Getz sees Maldy laboring to be bad behind the plate, and knows he's done. I can make up reasons why he doesn't cut Maldonado this instant. Professional courtesy? Don't damage an already bad reputation among free agents that the handling of Pillar didn't help? He's Grifol's little buddy, and helps him not lose the clubhouse? He is mentoring Lee and bringing him along? All of the above? 2B - In a rebuild year, I don't think I saw any compelling, cheap options on the market. Getz seemed resolute to cover defense and not worry about offense. I think Remillard would have been slightly better, in that he has a little pop. However, Remy was exposed like any utility infielder would be getting starters innings. I also think the brass recognizes Lopez' shortcomings, and he's pretty much in a straight platoon with Mendick. I don't think the Lopez move was "bad". He was basically for free in trade, and his salary is negligible for being, perhaps, our strongest defensive infielder.

I honestly thought Shuster would be one of the DFAs in the few flurries of moves then. He was horrible starting at AAA.

I'm always amazed by the people who laughed at this team in the off-season, and proclaimed that there was no way, no collection of trades and signings that would make this team competitive this year, and now act surprised at every single loss. I think trading your best pitcher in Spring training indicates something akin to tanking. It's silly to pretend that slotting a utility infielder in at 2B, trading off your best pitcher and dropping Maldonado at C was a major push at "competing". But hey! I'm performing mental gymnastics. LOL.

Any idea what Bummer would have brought back then? Something similar to Graveman or Middleton?

Bleacher Report suggests 10 trades. Included: To BAL: LHP Garrett Crochet To CWS: 1B/OF Heston Kjerstad, LHP Cade Povich, 2B Connor Norby, OF Dylan Beavers To PHI: OF Luis Robert Jr., RHP John Brebbia To CWS: RHP Mick Abel (No. 3 PHI prospect), SS Starlyn Caba (No. 5 PHI prospect), C Eduardo Tait (No. 8 PHI prospect), LHP Samuel Aldegheri (No. 10 PHI prospect) To MIL: RHP Erick Fedde To CWS: RHP Josh Knoth (No. 6 MIL prospect), 1B Wes Clarke https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10125833-10-fresh-mlb-trade-ideas-1-month-from-2024-trade-deadline

SoxMachine did a nice write-up of how the Bummer trade has turned out, so far. Hint: it's a wash depending on what Gowens becomes. https://soxmachine.com/2024/06/the-aaron-bummer-trade-scorecard-hasnt-been-worth-keeping/#google_vignette

I find the Yahoo Sports transaction tracker to be the most thorough of any I've stumbled upon. They seem to have everything. I just found out the White Sox signed Travis Lakins Sr. to a minor league contract yesterday. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lakintr01.shtml

And Ortega was DFAed for Julks.

Brad Keller's contract was selected the same day, so I'm guessing that. https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/chi-white-sox/transactions/

Those banners hang FOREVAH!!!!!

This is the Dodgers' 6th series sweep this season. It's not like it was a Father son series where the 6 year olds swept.

I see a Jasiel Puig signing in the future.

Soroka with 7 strikeouts against the Dodgers.

The White Sox should hire me for the interest I'm creating in this team.

Soroka be like, "Dudes, I told y'all how to pitch to the Dodgers!!"

Mumbling.

...And Soroka strikes out the side!

You said Flexen in your post. I'm seriously surprised both Flexen and Fedde held the Dodgers to 4 in 6 innings (5.2 for Flex). In either case, you just need one "yes".

And it's possible everyone's so jealous of the possibility, no one will hug him.

Wow, thanks for clearing that up, dude. Somebody hit by injuries and with Scott Carroll and Phil Humber at AAA might grab him for 4th-5th starter and long relief if they're on the cusp.

I'm always amazed - like it's a completely different time. The Brewers just let Jose Valentin go for Jaime Navarro and John Snyder. Then threw in an injured Cal Eldred for good measure. Like, Valentin's agent probably brought some rudimentary advanced stats to negotiations, and the brass was like, "f*** this guy, we got Ronnie Belliard coming up!"

I'm reading Manchester's The Glory and the Dream right now. So many kids from that era were dangerously malnourished during the Depression. The damage to an entire generation was irreparable.

There's not enough Natty Bo to drown that humiliation.