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I think the Phillies laying off 80 front office people during the pandemic is much more damning of them as a perspective incoming Director of Baseball Ops than their willingness to spend big money. I have been critical of Reinsdorf plenty, but the loyalty he showed to much of his team during the pandemic is commendable.

I think you are misreading; Dombrowski turned down the offer three times. No where does it say that Hahn turned down anything. I would doubt Jerry would grant Hahn permission to interview for a job while he was under contract; I can't recall him ever doing so in the past but I could be mistaken.

It's really obvious that the only sport that has owners who main objective is to not pay players is the MLB. I don't know why people are refuting this. The majority of revenue in sports does not come from the gate. The NBA is playing 72 games because they had to push last year back and they couldn't give the proper time for players to heal their bodies. It had nothing to do with money, unless you think the players association in the NBA is lying. edit: And the salary cap is staying the exact same as it was last year, despite playing only 72 games and assuming fans won't be there for much of the season.

The Phillies spent 455 million on two players in the last two years. The Sox biggest contract in their history was for 74 million. The two are nothing alike.

How do you figure? Hahn is under contract; he would need permission to interview.

Both teams also violated the protocols that were in place.

This is national TV revenue. Baseball is driven by local TV revenue more than any other sport. The 2nd biggest local deal in the nba pays the rockets 45 million. The bulls deal is worth 25 million. Even when you add the extra 50 million to the bulls from the national deal they're still short nearly 50 million from the sox. The white sox make 120 million a year in local tv revenue.

When evaluating bullpens, I typically remove the 2-3 worst arms. The real problem is blow up outings can cause guys to go negative and they never recover. By removing the front end guys who aren't that good, I think you get a better look at the impact of the bullpen. Mainly because you want to know how good bullpens are at keeping games close or closing games out. You don't really care how good your bullpen is in games that are pretty much out of hand.

Yup, never a health concern with Yu. Mr reliability!

This is actually a really good point. If you sign a cheaper arm and he fails, you're forced to use someone like Bummer there. Relief pitching arbitration really only rewards closers and saves. By failing and forcing a young guy in the role, you're potentially making him very expensive which negates the savings you made by not signing the tops arms. There is financial risk to not signing the top arm.

I think the worse your team is the more low leverage situations your RP's pitch in, the more likely you are to trade RP's, the more likely you are to use inexperienced arms in games, and the more likely you are to have middle relievers in games who are typically the lesser of arms. Haven't really looked at that though and it's an interesting point for sure.

Maybe because you asked why I was being so negative and then told me to go root for the Dodgers or Mets? Last I checked, I merely asked you why you continue to give the team the benefit of the doubt. Have a good one.

But the Sox were supposed to be spending the money they accumulated throughout the rebuild; not the money they made last year. I get this POV, but they had money accumulating interest for years, now that money is gone?

I hear you Jimmy, I'm just afraid they wasted a massive opportunity to put themselves ahead of the pack. As of right now, I think they sit right in the middle of the top 5-6 teams, and that is frustrating for a team who is all-in. Time could change that, and maybe they make a big splash but if they do I'd bet it's via trade which means the surrendering of more assets. I hope I'm wrong, and I'll hold your spot in the pitchfork line while you wait.

what? Maybe Rick Hahn should go cheer for the Mets too: But his most relevant message was a promise that the financial flexibility created by the ongoing rebuilding process will not go to waste. "At the end of the day, we made what we felt was not only a very aggressive offer, a very compelling offer and one that helped balance and represent the risk and the upside for both sides. Didn’t work, which is obviously disappointing. But it does not change the fact that we are going to once again be in this market when the time is right and hopefully, at that time, convert. "The money will be spent. It might not be spent this offseason, but it will be spent at some point. This isn’t money sitting around waiting to just accumulate interest. It’s money trying to be deployed to put us in best position to win some championships." That quote was two years ago now. Let me know when all that money Hahn told us he saved in the rebuild is going to go to work as opposed to "sitting around... accumulating interest." If you don't like the White Sox being cheap, Go cheer for another team! Brilliants takes on Soxtalk. Maloney told us all to "wait and see" on Springer too before complaining lol. So when is it OK to complain exactly, Maloney?

The Sox should keep their own star players; the extensions were only great because they added "financial flexibility." If the Sox aren't actually going to spend the money they "saved" by extending their core, then it's all for naught. Am I happy they're here for a while? Absolutely. Am I going to applaud a major market team for not not allowing their star players to leave in FA? Not really.

I think fans are whining because before the off-season even got into full swing, the White Sox were said to be out on Brantley, Springer, and Bauer because they were "too expensive." Given how weak the FA pool is this year, it's kind of hard to get excited about shopping in the discount aisle for the 97th year in a row.

What is negative about not being ecstatic about giving out one contract for 74 million dollars? I have higher expectations for the ball club than you do apparently, which is fine.

Sure, but the average payroll between the two leagues is near identical so it's not like teams are taking on substantial more risk with those extra games: $130 million (NBA) $137 million (MLB) Teams outsources concessions to contracts - in which there is no risk of loss for the team; just lost profits during the pandemic. Also, the average NBA ticket price is $51 while the average MLB ticket price is $34. So while the average gate revenue is certainly different, when you add the 40 million in additional TV revenue you end up with nearly the same revenue stream. AVG attendance MLB Game: 28,317 ($77,985,018) AVG attendance NBA game: 17,750 ($37,115,250)

1 year later 50% of fans wanted to keep James McCann over Yasmani Grandal (not saying they're right, just saying speaking for everyone seems like a bit much) last year I can't say I was happy with getting Keuchel (he obviously pitched well last year, but I'm worried about him this year as I was last) If they had signed Wheeler and Grandal I would say it was a huge success; but signing Keuchel/Grandal was a step in the right direction but not a huge success imo.

What is the evidence to support this? Local baseball TV contracts bring in more money than local NBA TV contracts. And average MLB team has an average revenue of 330 million dollars (2018). The average revenue generated per team in NBA is 291 million (2018).

You've been saying this forever it seems; what about the last few off-seasons have led you to give this team the benefit of the doubt?

My frustrations are here; the White Sox traded for a one year rental yet when signing a player they are worried about year 4? Are they all-in this year or not? It's confusing to say the least. Lynn isn't here next year.

Surely the White Sox and Royals will finish the off-season ranked one and two which is what makes this such an informative tweet and not at all misleading.

Sox fans search for ways to excuse Jerry not spending $13 million dollars in 4 years. It's an odd practice for sure.