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Jajaja This is the root of the issue for me. Had my manager at any level done this to me, I'd have zero respect for him.

so if your manager tells you to throw at someone, you do it because he said so?

again, listen to the actual facts and read the actual quotes. that is not what tingler was doing. you can try to make up your own narrative but the guy said what he said and you can't change that.

yup and everyone trying to pretend that he was doing anything but trying to score less runs is just in denial. he's upset at tatis because he didn't want to let his foot off the gas; Tingler did. Anyone who wants a coach who tells you to take your foot of the gas is asking for failure.

No, he was very clearly not trying to score the most runs possible. That's literally what this entire issue is about. Tingler didn't want Tatis to try his hardest to score the most runs because that's disrespectful in his eyes. Had he missed a sign and that was teh only issue, his manager wouldn't be publicly calling him out. Oh and NOT TRYING to maximize your runs is the very definition of shaving runs.

? Because teams give FA contracts based on your grade from your manager and not your stats, right? Get out of here with this. If my manager is shaving runs and trying to prevent me from producing because he has friends in the other dugout he can go on and get f*cked.

This is all fine and dandy, but when there is a manager literally attempting to suppress his players stats and output because he has friends in the other clubhouse there's something seriously wrong. As someone else noted already, there are incentives based on your production. You are paid based on what you do. You cannot afford to give at bats up in the name of sympathy. The pitcher you are facing is a professional, he has a job to do and if he can't do it he needs to find another profession.

Bryce harper has received his fair share of criticism too but for the most part it effects players from Latin culture more, as they play the game in a MORE FUN way.

i love that fans are constantly being told to turn the product off; if its a 7 run game, we're done trying so you should stop watching.

Your post excuses his actions with some rationale that he knows the other team. This guy threw his best player under the bus for trying to score more runs... all because he used to coach for the other team. Flavum if the rangers come back in a game from down 7, do they say the win doesn't actually count because they were down so much? I doubt if Rick Renteria was telling his players not to try in situations you'd be both siding the discussion.

tinglers job is to do what gives his team the best chance of winning. Intentionally trying to score less goes against that. He should be fired. Teams have blown 7 run leads before. He should lose his job since his number on objective isn't to do it properly apparently.

So tingler is shaving runs because he used to coach for the other team and you think that's an OK reason? He messed up? Lol this is the big leagues, managers shouldn't be giving take signs.

What is the highest level about not playing a certain way depending on score? The Padres bullpen is decimated.

Trout has had k rates has high as 26% multiple times in his career. His adjustment to not striking out came over the past couple years.

I agree with part of your first point; it is literally Woodwards job to protect his players so him ripping him means nothing to me. My entire issue is with Tingler the dingle berry ripping into his own player for hitting a grand slam instead of taking a pitch. That is so comically absurd. Anyone who thought Ricky was the worst manager in baseball needs to give that title up, because Tingle stole the show. Hosmer and Machado had a talk with him; Hosmer literally told the Rangers dugout he'd talk to him right after he hit it. It's embarrassing for the game. Tatis hit a grand slam to take the MLB home run lead as a 20 year old kid and his manager is talking about how it was mean to do to the other team and his own teammates are saying he was wrong. Zach Davies the only Padre that got it; the Padres bullpen is trash too which is why this is all so hilarious. So wait? Are you telling me if the Rangers came back from down 7 in the 8th that they would have said the win didn't count? If MLB wants a slaughter rule to protect feelings then implement one, otherwise stfu and take your grand slam beatings like a man.

8 people voting for Tatis might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on Soxtalk. There are 8 people here who would rather have Tatis Jr than Mookie Betts. ? Additionally Caufield started a best player sans Trout poll and left out the player leading everyone but Trout in WAR over the past two years - Yelich. lol

In addition Sox fans need to get over Tatis; it's just weird. The Sox have started to show signs of being a good drafting/developing organization and when you become that, you're inevitably going to trade away some lottery tickets and talent that pans out.

Why do people continue to compare untimed sports to timed sports? Also, why are you excusing a manager's inability to accept the realities of the game? Tatis' own fucking manager called him out for playing hard and playing his game regardless of the situation. That's so damn embarrassing. Hosmer and Machado TALKED TO HIM lol. Machado is an asshole; he literally has done dirty and cheap things on the diamond that could cause injury and he's going to give me a speech on what is right and wrong about a 3-0 count swinging away? Tatis should demand a trade. The Nationls blew a 4 run lead yesterday in the 9th. The Rangers have scored 16 runs in the 8th and 9th inning in a game before. Baseball has no clock, there is no point in which you should stop trying to hit the baseball.

A starter has to pitch 5 innings to qualify for the win. If a starter doesn't go five, but leaves with the lead, it's really score keeper discretion on who is credited with the win. Typically it will go to the first guy to replace the starter who holds the lead, but the keeper gave it to the guy who pitched the first full inning after the starter instead.

Yeah, and Foster looks amazing. I almost wish they'd try to stretch Foster out and convert him. He has three MLB quality pitches.

That bullpen if you pretend Colome isn't going to implode any second now is awesome. Burdi is the elite arm they thought he was; so crazy how he bounced back out of nowhere. Heuer has come together really nicely, Marshall is somehow a new man.

haha after re watching this play a few times, he is already shading towards left but he does get all the way in front of where Eloy lined up so it's rather hilarious and maybe slightly egregious, but on the other plays this year he's just caught balls he should.

I don't believe this is true; when you watch Kiermeir, Buxton, or any other great CF'er. They are going to cover the ground to get to any ball they can. You break off the bat before you even think about it, and you accelerate to the ball. Could he stop? I guess, but that's just not in the nature of a center fielder. If you can get there, you get there. We'll see the PO totals at years end in those two zones, but I don't think he'll have any higher catch rate there than other elite CF'ers.

They've got a chance to be Beltre/Andrus level great playing next to each other trolling each other for a decade.