Look at Ray Ray Run

I like pitchers who find celocity after they're drafted and actually get stronger as a pro. Stiever fits that profile.

i love kopech as well, but me and you can drive Michael to the airport if this happens.

yes, but you can't remove those two because they're in the proposal.

Why are the people who are the most critical of the White Sox front office and all their moves, the people who come up with the worst trade offers?

but it's quite obvious the sox hadn't agreed to a trade 24 hours ago.

I'm a big Gallo fan and would love the Sox to pull off a trade for him, but he will drive Sox fans insane and this forum especially.

Crazy to think all these teams made these trades yesterday and we're just finding out today.

Who reported Heuer isn't traveling with the team? Dick was joking.

Damn, I love Mike MInor. I would have wanted him. A's get a good one.

apparently didn't even give Heuer fair warning; luckily they had a parachute on the plane and they just threw him out over Milwaukee on their way. Reports are he landed in the middle of the target sign in downtown Milwaukee among multiple elvis impersonators.

i was just messing with bmags.

plus, gausman is just a league average starter so he's not an upgrade over anyone. all jokes aside, his stuff and k/bb numbers are really promising and maybe he's finally getting to what people thought he'd become.

cool, that's not what you said nor is it what i responded to.

What are you talking about? So the White Sox wouldn't have been better adding a league average hitter compared to Adam Engel last year? Aren't you always one of the big fans of "average" is fine and you rip the Sox for throwing out sub-replacement level players. Well Naylor is average. League average is much better than a .473 OPS. So by definition, the offense is better. You get so upset if one of your points is questioned. It cracks me up.

Wait, how didn't the offense improve? Coming into today they were starting from L-R LF - .473 OPS CF - .644 OPS RF - .583 OPS Naylor has been a league average hitter 99 wRC+ .732 OPS. He is significantly better than everyone the Indians have played.

This is tough for me. Clearly Clevinger is very good at what he does, but he hasn't been great this year and the team was fine without him. They also have well below replacement players in the OF, so Naylor is an upgrade there by default. Quantrill can help the bullpen this year which needed it more than the SP. In addition, they clearly hate Clevinger's guts at this point ha, and that does matter a little... so are they better? No, I can't say that but I don't think this is a blow to the Indians playoff or division chances. I'd say they cancel out.

Quantrill has looked very good this year, and he was a top 50 prospect in 2018. Even last year he had a 4.28 FIP as a starter and he's still young. His k-rate is up as a reliever. Reylo just gives up way more contact than Quantrill in general.

fair enough; i wouldn't but that's just my opinion. Mardigal is worth Clevinger's control, but as said earlier I'm not a huge Clevinger guy so that skews things. I'm a big fan of Arias so I really like this deal for the Indians; I also like Quantrill a lot and he strikes me as someone the Indians will maximize and that is worth quite a bit. Naylor is what he is but he's a clear upgrade for them right now.

I find it funny that people think the Indians lost that deal, yet Sox fans would have been livid if the Sox traded: Dunning, Collins and Madrigal for Clevinger. Madrigal a little bigger prospect, but not by much based on some publications. Or would they be happy with that move? Maybe I'm confused.

Arias is a top 100 prospect Naylor is a top 100 prospect Quantrill was a top 50 prospect Arias is one of the fastest rising prospects in baseball too.

lol

Arias is awesome too. Indians clean up here. Naylor is a talented kid and they need him now, Arias is going to be damn good and somehow he'll turn into Lindor 2.0 and Quantrill will turn into a very good SP.

Clevinger and Bauer aren't even in the next tier for me. They are 20-30 ranked starters in baseball.

So just waiting a couple more hours to announce the trade they made 16 hours ago. all is good.