Look at Ray Ray Run

It is certainly possible.

Can't believe anyone would want to trade this man: Face of the organization and the rebuild.

This is literally not at all what happened. Trout took less money than he'd get on the open market because he didn't give a fuck about the extra million when he had 400 coming his way.

So Tim Anderson runs a 350 BABIP, instead of a 399 BABIP, and his defense improves and he gets to a little more power. What do his numbers look like? I have Anderson projected for a 352 BABIP next year. Slashing 306/332/521 good for a wRC+ of 121. Anderson's wRC+ last year was 130 while Lindor's was 114. 2 years ago Lindor had a 130 wRC+ and was a 7+ fWAR player. I can't believe how many people on the internet like to cite players stats from when they were 24 while completely writing off major adjustments and changes made sense.

These are from my data; take it for whatever it is worth to you. Maybe nothing. I combined 4 projection tools, and I weight league wide changes more quickly - which does not mean it's more efficient, but it means someone like Anderson might not be dinged as much for an escalated BABIP if league wide BABIPs were high, while Lindor was docked slightly for an iso decline despite a league wide iso escalation. I don't think what I do is perfect, and weighting league wide changes into the following year can lead to issues (such as baseball changing the baseballs back and those past changes being artificial) but I do trust my projections on players with Anderson's profile/pedigree and while I am certainly more optimistic than other services, I also tend to factor/believe in changes much more quickly as I prefer a 2 year and 18 month past look to the standard 3 year. Time will tell, but I don't think 15ish WAR over the next 5 years is crazy for Anderson.

Well, that's not at all what I did but sure. Last year, Tim Anderson had a better WAR/600 than Lindor. Lindor is absolutely a better player - there is no denying that - but when taking into account their contracts and control I certainly don't think it's absurd to say 5 years of Anderson at his price is more valuable than 2 years of Lindor at his price.

Nah, I didn't. I took their projected WAR's from my data. Lindor projected for 5.2 and 4.8 WAR. Tim Projected for: 3.4, 3.1, 3.1, 2.8, 2.6. I use 9 million/per WAR as my value calculation.

Age: Anderson - 26 Lindor - 26 2019: Anderson - 3.5 fWAR - 4.05 WAR/600 Lindor - 4.4 fWAR - 4.03 WAR/600 Contract: Anderson - 5 years/47.25 million Lindor - 2 year/40 million (estimate) Surplus: Anderson - 87.75 Million Lindor - 50 million Lindor is really good, but I'll go ahead and hang onto Anderson and not trade him ++ other high end pieces for 2 years of Lindor.

Gio. Wilbon knows so little about baseball and never pays attention so he probably thinks its 2012 gio gonzalez.

Yeah, last year was really good - even better. Problem is I dont think hes talented/athletic enough or a good enough defender to play the OF for them so theres really no use for him.

Maybe it would cost that, but giving up Anderson, Madrigal + another piece for Lindor would be a complete rape. Anderson surplus value alone probably worth more than lindors for the rest of his control.

Soxtalk: why do people make fake and post fake baseball rumors?!?! Its so dumb. Soxtalk: *4 pages discussing a fake Lindor to white sox rumor*

Can you blame the guy? Somehow he was coming of a 2.2 WAR season and 5.5+ WAR 2 season outlook and he said he got ONE single MLB offer last off season. That's crazy.

Not sure I'd assume this. The Sox targeted both - I imagine the front office has the final say so who they chose to target first was more indicative of their position than grandals.

Yeah, they clearly asked grandal for his thoughts on pitching and I'd be shocked if they signed Gio without a glowing endorsement from Grandal.

Yeah, gio fired boras.

Dont think for one second that this didnt have something to do with grandals opinion if him last year in Milwaukee

I'm sure you've caught up on the thread but I had thought gio had been much worse than he actually was. I like the move after seeing that.

Yeah, 9 million is crazy. Makes Nova 9 million look fine. If Gio got under that (which I'd guess he did) the sox did real well.

If he got less than 9 million, after Tehearan bum ass got 9 million, it's a hell of a steal. I would guess he got like 4-5 million too.

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 54s Free-agent right-hander Julio Teheran in agreement with #Angels on one-year, $9M contract, source tells The Athletic. Pending physical. First with agreement: @JeffPassan Holy shit, thank god we didn't sign that deadbeat to a 9m Deal.

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LOL why would the White Sox trade for Lindor?

Yeah, amazing what statistics can do to change a persons mind. Didn't like the signing at all when I read it, but then dug into Gio and realized that my opinion of his performance the past two years was wrong and misguided. He's not going to get you deep into games, but he still gets some swings and misses and is still a productive big league arm.

His FIP's the last three years: 4.04, 4.16, 3.93. He's actually fine as the second acquisition. I would have preferred a higher ceiling younger guy, but I get banking on the safer veteran to fill a hole for a few months.